Actually it came with a deal I got from the UK .. I figured as I was paying shipping anyway....
@palallin posted:G-Man24: that play/trainset is O! it is obviously not complete, but the pieces there will make some Marx collector VERY happy! They are in very good condition! CTT ran an article about these pieces many years ago; if you want, I can try to dig it out.
Found it! CTT June 1992, pg. 76. Do you have access to it?
GMan24: that Marx “William Crooks” set with the box etc is quite valuable. The bldgs are splendid and even more rare. Auction site for that one for sure!! Loco does turn up occasionally but even without it it’s a valuable piece.
Best of luck
Don
@palallin posted:Found it! CTT June 1992, pg. 76. Do you have access to it?
Is there an online link to view it or you need the hard copy ?
I have the copy sitting next to me on my desk. Do *you* need a copy? I know of no online copy, but I can scan and email (the issue is long out of print).
@palallin posted:I have the copy sitting next to me on my desk. Do *you* need a copy? I know of no online copy, but I can scan and email (the issue is long out of print).
I certainly appreciate the offer and if I were keeping them for myself I'd accept but since I'm just selling these I don't want to put you through the trouble. Thank you though.
By the time I caught this reply, i already had the pages scanned, so I went ahead and emailed it to you. I hope doing so was not too presumptuous. Maybe it will help get max value for you friend if buyers ask you any questions.
@palallin posted:By the time I caught this reply, i already had the pages scanned, so I went ahead and emailed it to you. I hope doing so was not too presumptuous. Maybe it will help get max value for you friend if buyers ask you any questions.
I got the scans Steve, very interesting and fun read. Thanks so much I will pass them along to my friend.
Scott Smith
@Fatman posted:@G-Man24 I found one of the carriages ages ago and the William Crookes Set has been on my radar since then!
@Don McErlean posted:GMan24: that Marx “William Crooks” set with the box etc is quite valuable.
I have to admit when you guys were calling it William Crooks I was confused. A quick Google search and I realized that Marx had re-branded the set as "Tales of Wells Fargo" I also see the same set was marketed as "Pioneer Old Fashioned Train Set".
Then I remembered a broken piece of plastic that was in the bottom of the box of stuff. It said Wm. Cro..... but it didn't look like it broke off the Wells Fargo tender so I had no idea where it came from. Now it all makes sense...
I'm afraid it also answers what happed to the Locomotive, apparently it met an unceremonious demise.
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One of the Ives 3251s recently returned to running order is this Series 3 version:
A strong runner, it's pretty battered in its current form, to the extent it's missing a door on one side and the bell is long gone. While I'm long past a time where I wanted things to be pristine, I'm seriously thinking of giving this a refurb, i.e. a strip and repaint after a bit of straightening and dent removal. It never occurred to me that the cab doors on these things were a separate piece of metal soldered into place.
PD
Ok Tinplate fans, today I am offering something quite different. It is an engine from my small collection of lithographed tin toys. This is a Diesel Switcher (Road type switcher of the GP type) by Masudaya of Japan. This is a brute! It is 17" long, 4" high (not including the horns) and 3 1/2 " wide. It does have flanged wheels and the gauge is 2 1/2 " that is 3/4" larger than "G" gauge. IAW the box this toy has..."mystery action" (whatever that is), realistic whistle (for a diesel?), engine sound, and headlight. It is powered by 3 "D" batteries. This dates from the 1960's which was a golden era in Japanese lithographed tin plate and I think you will agree they did a marvelous job on this item. I also liked the slogan of the manufacturer...it was printed on the box..." For the Children of the World from...Masudaya" Their trademark by the way, which you may recognize from other toys is "TM" in a diamond shaped logo.
Here she is with her box from the side. The "N?W" notation is either N&W perhaps meaning Norfolk and Western or NEW just meaning that it was new. I cannot really interpret the stylized "E" between the N and W.
View from the front quarter showing the "headlight" and the multi-color lithography
Here from the rear or end of the long hood,
A couple of top views showing that the lithography continues on all sides plus add on fans , Horn, and vent
The side of the box ...by the way the caution reads..."Ages 3 and Up" luckily I qualify.
I included the close up of the cab area to illustrate the quality of the lithography done in Japan at this time. Multiple colors, peoples faces, rivets, stripping, vents (in two colors),treads etc. Quite elaborate.
Well its strange, not exactly a common toy train maker but it is tinplate! Best wishes
Don
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Nice engine Don, looks very good. Since a long time I was thinking to get one and install a Lionel Standard Gauge BAL motor on. Not sure if it could be done but there must be a lot of space in the inside.... a sort of never made fun loco....
Very best, Daniel
@Don McErlean posted:Ok Tinplate fans, today I am offering something quite different. It is an engine from my small collection of lithographed tin toys. This is a Diesel Switcher (Road type switcher of the GP type) by Masudaya of Japan. This is a brute! It is 17" long, 4" high (not including the horns) and 3 1/2 " wide. It does have flanged wheels and the gauge is 2 1/2 " that is 3/4" larger than "G" gauge. IAW the box this toy has..."mystery action" (whatever that is), realistic whistle (for a diesel?), engine sound, and headlight. It is powered by 3 "D" batteries. This dates from the 1960's which was a golden era in Japanese lithographed tin plate and I think you will agree they did a marvelous job on this item. I also liked the slogan of the manufacturer...it was printed on the box..." For the Children of the World from...Masudaya" Their trademark by the way, which you may recognize from other toys is "TM" in a diamond shaped logo.
Here she is with her box from the side. The "N?W" notation is either N&W perhaps meaning Norfolk and Western or NEW just meaning that it was new. I cannot really interpret the stylized "E" between the N and W.
View from the front quarter showing the "headlight" and the multi-color lithography
Here from the rear or end of the long hood,
A couple of top views showing that the lithography continues on all sides plus add on fans , Horn, and vent
The side of the box ...by the way the caution reads..."Ages 3 and Up" luckily I qualify.
I included the close up of the cab area to illustrate the quality of the lithography done in Japan at this time. Multiple colors, peoples faces, rivets, stripping, vents (in two colors),treads etc. Quite elaborate.
Well its strange, not exactly a common toy train maker but it is tinplate! Best wishes
Don
I would love to stuff a STD Gauge motor in one of those😜🤪
Steve
Daniel / Steve : Thanks for your comments. I agree, putting a std gauge motor into an engine like this would be fun. There is no doubt that there is room in the body for anything you might need and the gauge is not too far already from the 2 1/4 " of Standard Gauge.
Don
@Don McErlean posted:Daniel / Steve : Thanks for your comments. I agree, putting a std gauge motor into an engine like this would be fun. There is no doubt that there is room in the body for anything you might need and the gauge is not too far already from the 2 1/4 " of Standard Gauge.
Don
Do the trucks/wheel sets swivel? or would one have to heavily modify the frame?
NWL
NWL : No the truck frames swivel. Moving in a curve is part of the "mystery action" listed on the box. The gauge is wrong by about 1/4" from std gauge although the wheel sets are flanged.
Don
Lovely pickup Don ... these pieces from Masudaya are works of art !
The trademark can be confusing as it stands for Trade Mark, Modern Toys... lol so its an initial for both but mainly abbreviated to Modern Toys (MT)
@Don McErlean posted:
Don
That's a beautiful piece Don, love the lithography!
This is the type of thing I had in mind when I asked if anyone was interested in a tinplate first or second generation diesel in O gauge. I think a tinplate gp9 would be cool.
Fatman / jhz563 : Thanks for your comments on my Masudaya. Trademark is certainly confusing but appreciate the information. jhz...I would agree, a lithograph GP type diesel in 0 gauge would be really neat. The flat sides would give you plenty of room to make the design and the colorful liveries of the past would make for a neat engine.
Best Wishes
Don
