Tinplate Waddle

The 710 series passenger cars do not need weights as they are the larger tinplate passenger cars and run behind the 260E blue cars AND 251E red engines red cars just off top of my head they are bigger than my 610 and 607 series cars which run fine.

Not sure about the reproductions of the 710 series never seen them in action.

the connection of the truck to the frame may be loose.

Trainlover160 posted:

I saw a new passenger set run a while back, and I think they were the 710-712 series cars. As they were being pulled, I noticed a waddle back and forth on all 3 of the new cars. First I though one wheel may be out of round, but then thought not on all three cars.

Could this be due to the cars being to light, and maybe needing some little weights added to the interiors? really not sure...

Joe Gozzo

Joe

Sounds like your describing me.

Steve

I've had similar experience with a 712, but not on the remaining 710s.  Seems as though it tends to list to one side.  I haven't had time to look into it closely, but I'm wondering if a shim of some type might take out the list and resulting wobble.

Its due to the arch in the truck bolster from side to side. Most wobble can be reduced or stopped altogether by flattening the arch so that the bolster rub strips contact the bottom of the car.

I had a similar problem with a MTH Blue Comet box car.  I notified MTH and they sent me 4 wheel and axle sets.  This solved the problem it seems that the axles were not exactly in the center of the wheels on the box car I purchased.

Micheal

I thought all tinplate waddled and hunted  

  That really is one of the reasons I like it so much; it's motion is usually very flamboyant and animated.

  A lot comes from sheet metal wheel/fiber set's rounded tread to flange transition, but some warped axles are guilty too. I've never enountered an offset hole, but did find a couple no hole wheels in Gramp's old bulk supplies.

  Hunting and wandering on the rails; I like.  Listing steady; mildly annoying. Some sway I like, it's a bit more "real" if "softly" swaying...But shifting sides hard and "stopping with a bang"...that's listing that drives me nuts.    

I've shimed a few long truck posts, and reset a whole lot of rivits scratching that itch.

  If I recall correctly the Tinplate Waddle was a dance step first introduced during the Disco Music period of the late 1970's it eventually morphed into the Bootie Shake...or at least that's what I've heard ...

"Come on Baby", that was the Locomotion; early 70s.       

Do it. Just do it.  

F&G RY posted:

the connection of the truck to the frame may be loose.

Jim,

I thought these were all riveted. Would hate for this to be the case on a new Sat of cars.

Joeg

Rob English posted:

Its due to the arch in the truck bolster from side to side. Most wobble can be reduced or stopped altogether by flattening the arch so that the bolster rub strips contact the bottom of the car.

Good point

Thks,

Joeg