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Smoking locomotives have long been around O gauge. Lionel's smoke pellets always foster nostalgic memories in this hobby. Smoking diesels are relatively newcomers. I expect a steam locomotive to smoke, it's part of the romance of steam. Of my 7 diesel engines, 4 are smokers. The 3 that aren't are because of age (1) and size (lack of room). When I run a non-smoker, I sometimes wish that it smoked and I feel that it is an inferior product. Lately though, I think about shutting off the smoke units. For steam, smokers are essential IMHO but with diesels I might go smokeless. What are your engines, smokers or non-smokers and why?

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Originally Posted by MilwRdPaul:

Smoking locomotives have long been around O gauge. Lionel's smoke pellets always foster nostalgic memories in this hobby. Smoking diesels are relatively newcomers. I expect a steam locomotive to smoke, it's part of the romance of steam. Of my 7 diesel engines, 4 are smokers. The 3 that aren't are because of age (1) and size (lack of room). When I run a non-smoker, I sometimes wish that it smoked and I feel that it is an inferior product. Lately though, I think about shutting off the smoke units. For steam, smokers are essential IMHO but with diesels I might go smokeless. What are your engines, smokers or non-smokers and why?

come on paul..a train that dont smoke to me is LAMO!!..we wanted them to be closed to realistic as possible,,sounds and smoke..

I like having the smoke feature as it adds "life" to the visual. Not critical for diesels but almost a must for steamers.

However, the issue I have is with the fragility of the current smoke units. I can only speak of the Lionel units, but I'm always expecting one to quit which reduces the enjoyment factor.

 

Originally Posted by Ron045:

Ours are off... But not because we want them off.  The smoke gives my wife a migrane.  We have tried all sorts of brands and all sorts of pleasant scents including no scent, which my wife says she can smell.

 

So for the sake of her well being... off.

I have the opposite problem, my wife usually gives me the migrane

Well-fired and well-coaled steamers produced little to nearly no smoke, and if

the weather was mild the steam was sometimes not visible, either. (Not to insult

anybody, but the white stuff was steam, the dark stuff the smoke.)

 

For the above reason I use a smoke unit when it works, but I do not mind a model steamer that does not have smoke for one reason or another. I do not recall ever "repairing" a smoke unit, except adjusting the wick and changing the motor direction on my Lionel Niagara.

 

It's not really "smoke", anyway - its oil vapor. Harmless. There is no combustion going on,

unless you have flame coming out, in which case you should shut it off and fix it. Or

just leave it off. 

At home I usually use the smoke units on steam engines, very seldom on diesels. It's more trouble to keep the diesels primed and operating. Most diesels require a funnel to add smoke fluid, and in many or most operations you have multiple units, and multiple stacks per unit meaning you have to blow down the stacks more often to clear bubbles. And, in a small room multiple smoke units fill up the place faster than the single unit of a steamer. 

 

At the club/museum I sometimes run the smoke units on the diesels, at least for the first half hour to an hour. Then I usually shut them off because it just gets to be too much hassle to keep them running than it's worth. If I get tied up in an operational problem on the layout, or talking to members of the public, I'm running a risk of burning out multiple smoke units if I don't keep them all filled. 

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