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Hello all - hope this is the right place for this post.

 

Today my several-year-old 2-8-4 Polar Express Berk flamed out of operation.  The EUN2 board was badly burned and all the surrounding wires melted together into a large mass.  Very little of the wiring was recoverable, but I cut away the destroyed board and left as much intact as I could.  Light is ok and unaffected.  I also unscrewed and removed the mounting bracket for the board.

 

So my quandary is this--I think this is a great engine; it's a fantastic puller and it smokes great.  BUT at the end of the day it's a $100 starter locomotive, and I don't care to put $50 worth of parts and many hours of my time into it.

 

Is there a simple way I can wire this up so it just runs forward, lights, and smokes?


DISCLAIMER:  I have a general electrical background, but I'm from a 110/220V world.  Aside from general maintenance, this is the first time I've been inside a locomotive to do any kind of work.  Please feel free to use small words. 

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Just use a bridge rectifier to change AC track power to DC for the motor. Probably run track power direct to the smoke unit. If it was me, I might add a manual DPDT center-off switch for manual reversing. No doubt you will get additional advice here, I don't know what voltage the lights might be.

I'd probably treat it to a used Williams Reverse board.  I have a couple, and can sell you one cheap if you like.  That way you'll have full functionality for a lot less than $50.  Wiring the board in is very easy, two wires from the track pickups and two wires to the motor, job done.

 

The smoke unit should work wired directly to the track voltage, and I'd wire it through the smoke control switch so you can switch if off if desired.

Thanks very much to all of you, gentlemen.  A part of me was hoping someone would say, "sure, put those two wires togther and you're good to go".  I'm afraid my lack of familiarity with the low-voltage world has left me scratching my head at most of the terminology you shared, but I'm working to learn.  I'm somewhat surprised to see there seems to be a lack of basic 'entry-level-for-dummies' wiring diagrams online.

 

gunrunnerjohn, I will reach out to you via email tomorrow about the Williams board and give that a try.  An inexpensive fix that restores functionality is no doubt the way to go.

 

In the meantime, I'd like to test the smoke unit to verify there's not a problem there that contributed to the burnout.  Can I connect the two leads from the smoke unit to the red and black coming off the floor of the locomotive?  I'm assuming those are the track power coming in.

I'm still struggling with the "small" words.

 

If the headlight is an LED, you'll have to handle that, a diode and a resistor is the easy way.  I confess I don't know exactly what smoke unit is in that unit, most of the Lionel conventional models run from track voltage.  I'm assuming that's a puffer type smoke unit.  If so, I'd probably use a meter and just measure the resistance, that will tell us more about it's health.

 

What's the exact model number of the locomotive?

Looks like more electronics that I would have imagined in this conventional locomotive.

 

http://www.lionel.com/Customer...41-9eb8-7468eb82d2fa

 

Since you've stripped everything out, my choice would still be the simple reverse unit.  It would be simple to wire, the most complex part is figuring out how to mount it.  I'm assuming that blue wire is connected with the red one on the collector terminal, at least it appears that way.  If that's the case, to get the smoke to function, just ground the other loose wire on the smoke unit.  I'd run it through the smoke switch to allow control.

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