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I was going through the TV tonight and came across the Unstoppable Movie being on. It came to my attention, I know quiet a few people did not care for the movie, I liked it, but my question is, how come MTH or Lionel never came out with some of the engines from the movie? I was looking at both AC4400CW's or Dash 9's and I think the engine paint scheme for the fictionous railroad AWVR / Allegheny West Virginia Railroad are really great looking engines. In my opinion #767 behind #777 looked better. But that's my opinion. SD40-2 #1206 looked good to. Here's a picture of the real #777 which is CP AC4400CW #9777  http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=315300&nseq=5   I was also surprised in the movie credits that they didn't mention Canadian Pacific. I was just curious as to why not any 3-Rail company didn't make an engine with this paint scheme. I did paint the letters AWVR on one of my tank cars I own so I have something related to the movie. I just wanted to ask because I don't know if this ever was brought up before. So that's why I ask.

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Originally Posted by wrawroacx:

I was going through the TV tonight and came across the Unstoppable Movie being on. It came to my attention, I know quiet a few people did not care for the movie, I liked it, but my question is, how come MTH or Lionel never came out with some of the engines from the movie? 

Maybe both Lionel and MTH didn't feel that paying the licensing fee would be a good enough investment, i.e. they probably both felt that VERY FEW people would purchase anything painted & lettered for that "railroad".

Originally Posted by Boilermaker1:

I would venture to think there are costs to license the roadname from Fox, and I'm sure they're far more than could be recovered by selling models.

Yep! Combine license cost and narrow appeal of the models and you end up with zero profit. I liked the film too....and had plans to paint up a WbB Dash 9 and Weaver SD-40-2 like the movie locos....but found other projects to use these on. I still have the decal artwork ready to print me some decals....someday.....

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Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by Ferroequus:

Unstoppable is typical Hollywood garbage and has nothing to do with real railroading. I'm glad that Lionel and MTH didn't jump on that bandwagon.

 

Hollywood hasn't made a great railroad movie since Emperor of the North.

At least Unstoppable held up in the theaters longer than Lone Ranger...

 

Rusty

Not by much.  Unstoppable made $167,804,705. So far The Lone Ranger has made 

$164,704,802.  The Lone Ranger just cost more to make.

Originally Posted by wrawroacx:

I was looking at both AC4400CW's or Dash 9's and I think the engine paint scheme for the fictionous railroad AWVR / Allegheny West Virginia Railroad are really great looking engines. 

I agree with the point about the engines being attractively decorated, but I sure thought the movie (which I saw in the theater when it was first released), was pretty ho-hum at best.

 

Personally, I'm glad none of the major manufacturers jumped on that bandwagon.  And Lionel should have passed on The Lone Ranger, as well.  Just let the film die in peace, as it deserves to do.  One of the biggest losers in a summer of losers.  

Originally Posted by Allan Miller:

Personally, I'm glad none of the major manufacturers jumped on that bandwagon.  And Lionel should have passed on The Lone Ranger, as well.  Just let the film die in peace, as it deserves to do.  One of the biggest losers in a summer of losers.  

Don't hold back Allen!!!! Tell us how you REALLY feel!!!

 

Now if Lionel had done a Lone Ranger train as it was in the film, a 4-6-0 and a 4-4-0 in scale I'd bought them all. The very tired General run over and over holds no interest. I modified one Lionel General but the work required was WAY too much.

I still have 3 Lionel SD40-2's to get custom painted to look like the 3 used in the film. Personally if either Lionel, MTH or anyone else made the engines, there would be some things that may not match up with the movie versions, and that would get on the nerves of many perfectionists.

 

And yes, while Unstoppable does fall into usual Hollywood genre action, it still manages to be effectively heart pumping and entertaining, with of course Denzel Washington in it always a plus. I'm also glad it was not CGI-heavy....that gets really tiresome these days.

 

Plus, I find it fitting that this movie was a hit before director Tony Scott committed suicide last year.

Originally Posted by Southern Railway Sean:

Now I have to wonder how many people would have ran out and brought the Silver Streak Train Set if it was ever made.

By the way the Budget was 6.5 million and the movie made almost $51.1 million.

 

  
 

 

 

 

Silver Streak has achieved classic status. I bet an AMRoad set would sell fairly well. I know I would buy one. Sure, I guess GGD could do a couple sets of the Canadian in movie dress, but I think you'd do better with a slightly more reasonable price point with a fictional train. A true bonus would be an opening rear observation car door with Gene Wilder running behind the train.

Originally Posted by Grampstrains:
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by Ferroequus:

Unstoppable is typical Hollywood garbage and has nothing to do with real railroading. I'm glad that Lionel and MTH didn't jump on that bandwagon.

 

Hollywood hasn't made a great railroad movie since Emperor of the North.

At least Unstoppable held up in the theaters longer than Lone Ranger...

 

Rusty

Not by much.  Unstoppable made $167,804,705. So far The Lone Ranger has made 

$164,704,802.  The Lone Ranger just cost more to make.

And the ticket prices were higher for LR...

 

Rusty

Personally, I'm glad none of the major manufacturers jumped on that bandwagon.  And Lionel should have passed on The Lone Ranger, as well.  Just let the film die in peace, as it deserves to do.  One of the biggest losers in a summer of losers.  

It could be worse....you could've sat through After Earth, R.I.P.D., Smurfs 2, or Grown Ups 2....

I do not have a clue about how real or ficticious this movie was.  But it is just a MOVIE made to entertain.  I thought it had some great acting and some really good action drama.  To that end I thought it was really entertaining.  If I wanted fact based realism, a hollywood movie would not be my first choice.

 

Ed

Originally Posted by Ed Walsh:

I do not have a clue about how real or ficticious this movie was.  But it is just a MOVIE made to entertain.  I thought it had some great acting and some really good action drama.  To that end I thought it was really entertaining.  If I wanted fact based realism, a hollywood movie would not be my first choice.

 

Ed

Bravo!! Sir

"I've thought about doing an HO Silver Streak. Wouldn't be too difficult... Just make up some AmRoad decals and put them on a pair of CP F-units and some passenger cars. That's how they did it for the movie!"

 

That's exactly what they did for the movie.  However, when shooting was completed, the decals or coatings did not come off.  So the production company had to bear the expense to have the two FP7s repainted.

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