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Like many, I have now fitted a set of 6-49081 70-Ton sprung metal trucks to a first issue cylindrical hopper (a BN in this instance). A few observations might prove useful to those of you with layouts based upon the Gilbert track system.

 

First off, the gauge for the wheel sets is very close to being correct because the flanges are not only deeper, but wider. They are easily swapped for the so-called “scale” trucks; however, I found that I had to make a few adjustments along the way.

  1. The coupler support tabs were bent downward slightly resulting in an incorrect coupler height. Straightening the tabs results in a level coupler position that uncouples and couples pretty well and functions properly with standard Gilbert uncouplers. Bolster height is unaffected with the swap.
  2. One of the two supplied trucks had a manufacturing defect. The mounting hole for the coupler was stamped off center in its support tab causing the centering spring for the coupler to not align to its intended centerline (i.e., it would not align properly with the coupler to be mated on the neighboring car). This was cured by cannibalizing one of the couplers with its tab from the “scale” trucks and remounting it on the new truck.

Once refitted with the new trucks, the first issue cylindrical hoppers (as do the second issue versions) negotiate Gilbert trackage and turnouts beautifully.  They appear to have very low rolling resistance and the functioning rotating bearing caps are a nice touch.

 

Have fun.

 

Bob

Last edited by Bob Bubeck
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Originally Posted by banjoflyer:
Originally Posted by Bob Bubeck:

 

  1. One of the two supplied trucks had a manufacturing defect. The mounting hole for the coupler was stamped off center in its support tab causing the centering spring for the coupler to not align to its intended centerline (i.e., it would not align properly with the coupler to be mated on the neighboring car). This was cured by cannibalizing one of the couplers with its tab from the “scale” trucks and remounting it on the new truck.

 

Thanks Bob for the review.

To all who have the initial version of "scale" trucks (as well as you Bob) the as delivered couplers were somewhat hard to mate with other couplers...even those of the same type.

Lionel will replace free of charge a set of new couplers to replace those on the "scale" trucks. The new redesigned couplers work much better. I do believe that the redesigned couplers have been mounted on the new "hirail" trucks that are now available.

To get your replacement couplers you need to send an email request to Lionel along with a scanned and attached copy of your original purchase receipt for the "Scale Cylindrical Hopper" you purchased.

I requested six sets and they were sent free of charge very quickly.

Mark

Thanks for the tip.

 

However, the coupler and its stamped metal support tab that I cannibalized from the "scale" truck is identical to the nondefective ones on the new hi-rail trucks (my sample) and functions well. Suggest that folks check their individual samples to determine their situation.

 

Bob

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