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After unpacking all of my engines I find that for some period of production Lionel placed extra traction tires in the same bag as small bottles of smoke fluid.  You guessed it, over time the smoke fluid leaked out of the bottle all over the tires.  I figure those tires are now useless and would like to order replacements.  I found the list of traction tires on the website but have no idea of the part numbers I need.  Is there any way to find out the part number for tires for a specific engine or do I have to rely on measuring the tires to obtain the proper replacements?

I also need some handrail stanchions for my Hogwort's Express engine.  I've found stanchions under handrails but again I don't know the proper part number.  Any way to find that out, exploded views or parts lists for individual engines that I may be missing on the web site?

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For the traction tires, they're normally listed in the exploded view.  However, many are listed as unavailable.  That being the case, I typically use MTH traction tires, diesels normally use the DE-0000018 tires, steam you have to measure the tread diameter and pick the correct one.

The Hogwart's listing doesn't list the handrails or stanchions separately, they're all part of the shell assembly.  However, when I look at stanchions, I find this...

STANCHION-BRN-HOGWARTS - 7911069T28

If that's not what you need, you'll have to measure the existing stanchion and pick from the available ones in the listing for stanchions.

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You can use either keyword search- example "Hogwarts" or specific locomotive or set product numbers- example 6-38xxx for an engine.

Lionel mostly used inch sizing in designations or descriptions of tires. MTH went metric. You can buy a cheap set of digital calipers and measure wheel diameters and use the MTH system since they give a range of wheel diameter- certain size of tire. https://mthtrains.com/sites/de...HART_REVISED_ALL.pdf There are a number of folks like myself that often use the MTH tires on other brands because the numbering and sizing is relatively easy. That said, it does not work for everything and there are some engines and wheels that have different traction tire widths or thickness that make an MTH tire incompatible or just lesser suited.

With Lionel, you have to do the product number system and then chase down alternates. One good thing on the Lionel side, there is the half off parts sale coming up September 23rd-25th http://www.lionel.com/articles...ual-Parts-Sale-2022/

Yes, with keyword search, you need a little background knowledge. Example, on Hogwarts, they made several different versions, but for the handrail stanchions they to my knowledge used the same basic boiler shell over and over and over. https://www.lionelsupport.com/...101069001?quantity=1

They don't break out the stanchions in the diagram but list the 2 different color ones

For the record, again, this is my annoyance with the Lionel system, traction tires were linked by locomotive product number, and then that part number gets deprecated. So then you have to search by decimal inch or fraction sizing.

So then we get this as the now current available tire in that size.

https://www.lionelsupport.com/...-x-.056-TH-x-.142-WD

Also, this where knowing that certain engines- example the Hogwarts style Victorian engine series, used big and thick very specific tires that could not be substituted easily from other brands. Again, it's these larger driver wheels with deep groove for the traction tire, and the width, thickness and diameter was not used by MTH as an example.

Sorry, I wish there was some easy answer but there isn't. Hopefully I've given you some tips and yes, the Lionel system will have you searching for alternates most likely for at least one engine.

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Bob, when I used the search I actually used the term Harry Potter's Hogwort's Express and got no matches then just used handrail for search and found 27-28 pages.  Found stanchions that looked like what I needed but since there were different lengths I wasn't sure which one was correct.

John, I must have spelled stanchion incorrectly because I got no matches and went to handrail.  I remember seeing black and brown stanchions don't recall seeing one labeled Brown Hogwarts. Where can I find exploded views?

Hey Bob I think I just found the problem with my search, misspelling Hogwarts.

Thank you all for your help and responses.

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So moving on from stanchions and handrails to traction tires.  As mentioned in my original post, several sets of spare traction tire that came with engines have been ruined when the smoke fluid they were packaged with  from the factory leaked from the bottle into the surrounding plastic bag and all over the tires.  My first search candidate is 6-38643 Alaska RR Mikado Jr.

Search for traction tires for 6-38643 yields two results, 6SP-8238-146 (Obsolete) Out Of Stock, and 6SP-8075-065, 0.875"d x 0.026"t x 0.134"w Out Of Stock.

Search for traction tires for Mikado Jr. yield two different results, 6208616206 (Obsolete) Out Of Stock, and 640-8036-206, 0.812"d x 0.038"t x 0.094"w.  $1.50.

Measuring the smoke fluid slickened spare with a digital caliper I get 0.7"d x 0.045"t x 0.14"w.  not sure the 640-8036-206 is going to work.

Looking at Lionel's Traction Tire Reference List, 6208616206 (Obsolete) Out Of Stock, sits at number 30, right between 6408039206, 0.687"d x 0.056"t x 0.102"w and 6308661206ALT6108461206, 0.750"d x 0.048"t x 0.140"w.  I think I've got a winner. I had no idea buying traction tires was going to be so involved.  Only 3 more sets to go.

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