Could anyone give me the going prices for a Mint never run Lionel 6-28306 GE Evolution Hybrid. I see one on e-bay awhile back and now I don't see any.
Are there not many interested in the Engine anymore ?
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For a locomotive that MSRP'd at $900 a couple of years ago, the street prices have soared over $1,400. Why? I don't have a clue. 
And of course, just when you see a new high, it doesn't take long for another seller to spring out of the woodwork with an even higher asking price. Go figure! There's one on the OGR forum right now, but I can't even figure out the listing there's so many alternative options listed! 
More than likely, we only see them one at a time on eBay 'cause that lessens the likelihood that sellers will be competing with one another. If you all of a sudden saw 6 appear on eBay, there'd be no bidding wars. Wouldn't that be a refreshing change.
David
Other than tmcc, why is the MTH one so much cheaper?
The best diesel ever made, IMO, charging light amazement, die cast with great detail and Legacy sound coupled with insufficient production. The mystery is where?
Economics 101
Scrappy
Why is a thread about Lionel engines is Mth always thrown in
Lets compare apples and oranges
Doug
Originally Posted by cjack:
Other than tmcc, why is the MTH one so much cheaper?
The Lionel version has a die-cast shell, whereas the MTH version is done in the more typical ABS plastic.
For as long as I've followed the O-Gauge segment of this hobby, there's ALWAYS been moment-in-time "hot" items. In the 1980's, the list included the Lionel 5712 reefer and the Southern Pacific Daylight GS-4 steamer. Dealers and 3rd party sellers constantly pushed the asking-price envelope. And as I recall, the GS-4 peaked just under $2K -- for a very toy-like GS-4 by today's standards. Today, you can't give those items away.
That's not to say that the GE EVO will suffer the same fate. But I assure you if we're still here to discuss it in 10+ years, you'd be lucky to get MSRP for those items due to technology treadmill obsolescence. The only exception might be if production of O-Gauge trains STOPPED completely. And that doesn't appear to be in the cards -- at least not in the near future.
Think die-cast is gonna help that puppy hold its value years from now? Ask owners of the Lionel die-cast UP Veranda if they can sell that wonderful locomotive for what they paid for it. 
It's less about pure Eco 101 principles than it is about folks falling for all the hype and fueling their need to have something they think is highly desirable in the marketplace.
David
The value is only what somebody is willing to pay. I never ever pay msrp or above for any engine. If I want the engine I will wait till I find it at the price I am willing to pay.
Originally Posted by Rocky Mountaineer:
Originally Posted by cjack:
Other than tmcc, why is the MTH one so much cheaper?
The Lionel version has a die-cast shell, whereas the MTH version is done in the more typical ABS plastic.
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Think die-cast is gonna help that puppy hold its value years from now? Ask owners of the Lionel die-cast UP Veranda if they can sell that wonderful locomotive for what they paid for it.
It's less about pure Eco 101 principles than it is about folks falling for all the hype and fueling their need to have something they think is highly desirable in the marketplace.
David
Good answer. I find myself looking to get the latest "Sequence Control" when considering a new Legacy engine...
It pays to be a patient shopper. I found one, a Lionel example at York last month. It is brand new, never run. The guy wanted $700, I bought it for $600. I also bought a bunch of other new stuff he had for good prices. I was very happy.
Donald
When the veranda from Lionel came out it was $1295.00. Way more then I was willing to pay. I decided to buy the MTH versions at about half the price.
I saw the Lionel version this past year and paid less then $600.00, new in the box. It pays to wait.
This past year I was looking for a UP 2-8-8-2 H7. The legacy unit was way too high so I decided to look for the Rs5 version. I found one for $535.00 that was like new. Even legacy engines can be found at 30% + then they were just selling for 1 or 2 years ago
Never ever over pay for any train IMO
I had both sorry guys the mth has nothing on the lionel..The mth is a nice piece .. But to answer the guys question .. Mint in box is 1400 To 1500 anymore then that is overpriced .. The cp rail is bring more money then the evo..
Originally Posted by Hancock52:
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Also, I don't think that you can make a comparison with the Lionel Veranda just because it is die cast. That model has a past generation of sound and other features but it was pretty much state of the art when issued and still has better (more prototypical) smoke effects than the current MTH issue. ...
Yes... And in roughly 5-10 years, folks will say the same about Lionel's GE EVO... which is exactly my point. Someday down the road, even these Vision line models will have "past generation" stuff -- resulting in a very good potential that prices will come back down to earth. Meanwhile, the scheiksters will have already found new "hot" items of the day that they'll be attempting to sell at ridiculous prices. History has a funny way of repeating itself.
David
