WBB F3???

Bob,

I was close to buy one but the pilot change my mind. I don't like how look. In this case try an Atlas rocco F9 and install an upgrade wheelset.

this is IMO. Finally I bought an All Nation F3.

Andre.

Bob,

This is an MTH scale F unit:

Below are two examples of WbB F3s. They are identical in all respects, except for the pilots, to the Lionel postwar F3.

The Lionel Fs, and the Williams, are noted for slightly "squinty" front windows as you can see by comparing them to the MTH.

There are many who compare all other Fs to the Lionel postwar versions and seem to prefer the smaller windows. The Williams and/or Lionels are pretty close to scale in most respects.

Jim

Bob,

Here are some more comparisons. From front to rear, they are the old Atlas 2-rail F9 (UP), Williams F3 (WP), the MTH F3 (SF), and Williams F3 (CP and B&O).

Jim

Thanks guys!

I Googled for a Seaboard Air Line F3 and their pilot looks just like the WBB part:

http://www.railpictures.net/im.../4338.1042816140.jpg

except for the ginormous hole for the coupler.

Do any of the brands have wire mesh for the screens?  Looks like the WBB unit is solid plastic.  Not a big problem since I'd have to strip paint anyway, just cut it out and find some screen to put in its place (like I did on my Athearn HO F3s).

I don't think I can wait for Atlas to get around to offering a SAL F3 so this may have to do, or get a P&D unit (are they 3-rail or just 2-rail?).

P&D units are 2 rail. The WBB f3's are very nice, just remember the are mostly a copy of the old Lionel F3's. 

I bought a set of the Norfolk southern units and added ps2 and they are great. 

if your a total scale nut then the WBB F units are not for you, but if you can put up with the squinty windows then they just may work for you. 

ere are a couple of pics of the Lionel scale F3 and a postwar Lionel F3. 

The Williams F3s are clones of the PW Lionel models.

The scale F3 (on the left) is slightly taller too.

NO, P&D are either depend what kind of wheel you want.

Andre.

Andre,

Is it necessary to call P&D to order a 3-rail F3, the only ones I saw on their sight were in the 2-rail section?

Anybody know if the P&D F3 pilot (PDP5130 perhaps) fit a WBB F3?

Bob, call Pat at P&D store and ask him for the plastic blomberg truck he was offering and the roller pick up. This truck type is like the weaver FA and RS units, use the same bolster.

Then on the bolster install the roller pick up. If He doesn't have the roller pick up let me know I still have few.

Andre.

Thanks Andre!

Any news?

AG.

Not yet, I have 2-3 other projects to finish before I start another

My luck goes like this...about a week after I finish kitbashing an item I've been wanting for years, a manufacturer posts it as the next new thing.  Maybe if I take my time they'll slip up and bring a single Seaboard F3A out BEFORE I buy my first piece LOL!

Murphy's law.

AG.