Weaver 2-8-0?

Mine runs just fine. The EOB takes some getting used to, since it has start up pauses and speed ramps up that are not expected. Occasionally while running, it just takes off at high speed, which is usually an indication of a failing tachometer sensor on the motor.

 

The only other quirk is that the rear drivers seem to waddle. They move forward and backwards at speed, or the rear axle "yaws" at speed. This does not affect the operation of the loco and does not cause the loco to wobble, it just looks funny if you notice it.

 

Other than those few things, it's a great little die cast loco with just enough detail to look good, but not so much as to be overly fragile.

 

I like mine. If it keeps taking off at high speed, I will put a Cruise Commander M in it.

Done in the Grand Canyon Railroad even though the GC Consolidations were Alco.

Thanks, but I hope yours isn't typical.  I know NOTHING about these, but IF these engines have a plate on the bottom holding the axles on, I would want to take that off

and see what kind of bearing problem..worn/missing would cause drivers to move other than simply rotate.   If we were talking autos, I'd wonder if there are replaceable  bearings, or does it have to be "rebabbited"  or bearings fabricated.  Bent rods binding....??....And it depends on how much yours has run, or did it have those

problems out of the box?  (now that rear axle play wouldn't be built in to provide for

a tighter track radius. would it?)  Again the only place I've seeb these was at Weaver's

booth at York.

Mike CT:  I saw those Grand Canyon versons pictured in the last of the Weaver brochures, 2007?, that I could find with them offered.  I was wondering if any were offered later than that, like, still offered (I think not), but Weaver did/does custom work on them ...also shown were NY,O & W, liveries,  with two different tender letterings.

What I wanta hear is rave notices about them, like I heard about the WBB Casey Jones.

From the Weaver Archives.  My Grand Canyon model was 2006. If I remember correctly they were discounted significantly. $495 for TMCC.   I'm guessing.  There may have been a few with EOB speed control.  Two are missing 1806 and 1807, sorry.

1802-S/L/LP   1802-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	UNDECORATED		2002   　 2003	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/BLACK          SMOKE BOX/GRAPHITE
1803-S/L/LP   1803-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	PRR / PENNSYLVANIA	8672, 9920   8420, 9624	2002   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/BLACK          SMOKE BOX/GRAPHITE          PRINT/DELUXE GOLD
1804-S/L/LP   1804-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	WESTERN MARYLAND	753, 758   750, 762	2002   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/BLACK          SMOKE BOX/GRAPHITE          PRINT/YELLOW
1805-S/L/LP   1805-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	BALDWIN			CANCELLED

1808-S/L/LP   1808-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	NYC / NEW YORK CENTRAL	1147, 1169   1143, 1172	2002   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/BLACK          SMOKE BOX/GRAPHITE          PRINT/WHITE
1809-S/L/LP   1809-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	BOSTON & MAINE	2403, 2420   2406, 2422	2002   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/BLACK          SMOKE BOX/GRAPHITE          PRINT/WHITE
1810-S/L/LP   1810-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	N&W / NORFOLK & WESTERN	678, 690   675, 698	2002   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/BLACK          SMOKE BOX/GRAPHITE          PRINT/WHITE
1811-S/L/LP   1811-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	LEHIGH VALLEY	908, 923   SAME	2002   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/BLACK          SMOKE BOX/GRAPHITE          PRINT/WHITE
1812-S/L/LP   1812-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	UP / UNION PACIFIC	325, 329	2002	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT/ WHITE
1813-S/L/LP   1813-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	CNW / CHICAGO NORTH WESTERN	1713, 1820   1720, 1905	2002   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT/ WHITE LOGO/ RED & WHITE
1814-S/L/LP   1814-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	C&O / CHESAPEAKE & OHIO	701, 975   795, 966	2002   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT/ DELUXE GOLD RUNNING BOARD/ WHITE
1815-S/L/LP   1815-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	GN / GREAT NORTHERN	1130, 1136   1132, 1135	2002   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT/ SILVER CAB ROOF/ OXIDE RED LOGO/ SILVER & RED
1816-S/L/LP   1816-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	UP / UNION PACIFIC	325, 329   327, 330	2002   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT/ WHITE
1817-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	B&O / BALTIMORE & OHIO	2500, 2722   2657, 2909	2003   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT/ DELUXE GOLD
1818-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	ATSF / SF / SANTA	2535, 2546   2540, 2549	2003   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT/ SILVER
1819-S/L/LP   1819-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	LACKAWANNA	784, 799   785, 790	2002   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT / DELUXE GOLD
1820-S/L/LP   1820-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	NP / NORTHERN PACIFIC	1250, 1279   1259, 1276	2002   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT / WHITE
1821-S/L/LP   1821-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	SOUTHERN	811, 813   810, 812	2002   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT / DELUXE GOLD
1822-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	MILWAUKEE ROAD	1245, 1247   1205, 1249	2004   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT/ WHITE LOGO/ RED & WHITE
1823-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	L&N / LOUISVILLE & NASHVILLE	1362, 1374   1347, 1364	2004   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT/ YELLOW
1824-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	GRAND CANYON	29   SAME #	2004   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT/ YELLOW CAB ROOF/ MAROON
1825-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	UNITED STATES ARMY	603, 606   602, 607	2004   2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT / WHITE
1826-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	NEW HAVEN	154, 163	2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT /PANTONE 402
1827-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	CANADIAN NATIONAL	2534, 2616	2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT / DELUXE GOLD
1828-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	GRAND TRUNK WESTERN	2664, 2684	2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT / WHITE
1829-S/L/SP/LP	BALDWIN CONSOLIDATION / 2-8-0 DIECAST	MAINE CENTRAL	501, 519	2006	$495.00   $595.00 TMCC	BODY/ BLACK SMOKE BOX/ GRAPHITE PRINT / RED & YELLOW

 

Operation manual does list instructions for EOB.  Click to access the on line Weaver Manual.  You may want to contact Weaver they may be able to direct you to one of these models.
IMO one of the last straight TMCC models that I purchased, I installed EOB in an older 0-8-0 Weaver Yard Goat.  Difference is night and day.  Still a very nice display model, I have run it on my layout with good results.

I like mine a lot. It's perfect for my small layout. The only drawback is that it does start up with a jerk; not the best for prototypical starts and slow speed operation. That could easily be fixed with an ERR cruise or EOB. You can tweak EOB for better slow speeds. I think mine is from the early run as I don't think it has EOB. 

Mine waddles and wobbles.  You can see the cab move up and down. The springs were replaced with stiffer ones from Weaver, but it didn't really help. Its also very jerky at low speeds and squeaks.  I replaced the motor and I've played with the EOB settings many times, and Weaver has had it twice.  The smoke unit had to be replaced and ever since it has not been synchronized.  Having said all that, it looks nice.  And the folks at Weaver are great.  I just wouldn't buy one unless you could run it first.  

IIRC  Weaver made their die cast Pennsy 0-8-0 with only a single axle gear driven and power transmission to the other axles through the rods.

 

Does the Weaver 2-8-0 use the side rods for power transmission? 

 

Thanks for the input...but I am disappointed in the gist I am getting.  It sounds like

the rods are binding and making these things hop along the track.  (have had that

problem with old Marx with bent side rods...the Marx can usually be fixed).  If somebody does take one apart, or removes the drive rods to view the effect, and verifies the problem, it will make an interesting post, for those owners and I, and maybe info on how not to engineer a model locomotive.

Practically everybody uses the rods to transmit power to the other drivers.  Lionel, MTH, 3rd Rail, all the other brass builders.  It's nothing new.  Same for HO and some S(American Models gears all their drivers on their steamers, the rods are only along for the ride.)

 

Now, if a driver's out of quarter, burrs in the rods or too much slop, that's another matter.

 

Rusty

I have one in Boston and Maine livery.  Did not run well and was a shelf queen until the TMCC was replaced with PS2 boards.  Now it runs like a champ.

 

 

I like mine, it runs just fine - no problems.  Only downside is that the chuff rate is too slow, but I'll fix that one of these days.