Weekend tinplate photos 📸 and videos 📽 5/2/19!

Running some Lionel Postwar classics (together with some older goodies)

Live steam O gauge model, designed and made by Carette who stopped production around 1917. After the first world war, Basset Lowke re-used the dies to produce this model, see the BL stamp on the back of the tender. They can be found also in LMS livery.  

Have a nice weekend,  Daniel

DANIEL:  A beautiful CLASSIC!  

Some boxed sets of accessories made by Mettoy  that I acquired from the Michael Foster auction:

I updated my e-book on accessories with these and more accessories; it can be downloaded free from my website here: http://sncf231e.nl/tin-stuff-from-fred-2/

Regards

Fred

Chris, I love that crane and your Looney Tunes figures. I think you have done it before but for us early onset folks can you tell us more about it?

George

beautiful stuff guys!

Real live tinplate...My husband and I traveled on the Orient Express from Berlin to London last year. The beautiful, restored cars date from the 20s and 30s, and of course they were the prototypes for tinplate cars made by Marklin and others. It was the train trip of a lifetime!

Jim Kelly-Evans posted:

Real live tinplate...My husband and I traveled on the Orient Express from Berlin to London last year. The beautiful, restored cars date from the 20s and 30s, and of course they were the prototypes for tinplate cars made by Marklin and others. It was the train trip of a lifetime!

 

 

Wow Jim! Thanks for sharing. That is very elegant. You and your husband look very dapper at dinner!

George

American Flyer Set #16 - ca 1919

  Flyer's set #16 was featured in the catalogs over a number of years and underwent a number of changes with respect to engine type, tender type, and car lithography.  In 1918 Flyer featured Set #16 on the cover

  A close examination of the cover indicates the cars carry the Union Pacific  herald.

  The set below resembles the 1918 cover in many respects save one - the tender.

According the Greenberg guide the tender with "No. 120" on the sides and ends was not offered until 1919.  Given that the set matches the 1918 cover in all other aspects my guess is that it is from 1919 or 1920.

HAmerican Flyer S Gauge Tinplate from 1950.

CHRIS: LOVE that MTH crane! Do you have the catalog number for it? FRED: Lovely items as usual! JKE: That HANDSOME couple definitely rode in CLASS on the that iconic train. I imagine it was the trip of a lifetime!

RSB: THANKS for sharing that BEAUTIFUL box cover and that equally FINE set!  BRAVO, sir!

smokin' !

Cotten?

The Dorfan portion of the collection continues to expand.

I have been trying to figure out why the #607 caboose for the Narrow Gauge freight cars is so difficult to find.  I read in one resource that the 607 eight-wheel caboose appeared in the 1928 catalog.  It was not included in any sets, but was only available as an extra car. That explains its scarcity. I wonder if that was true in other years as well.  I am looking for two examples; one with journals and one without, both with black trucks

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

The Dorfan portion of the collection continues to expand.

I have been trying to figure out why the caboose for this segment of the O gauge line is so difficult to find.  I read in one resource that the caboose was never included in any sets, but was a separate sale item.  That explains its scarcity, but it seems odd considering how plentiful cabooses are for other manufacturers.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Greg, all freight sets I have came with a caboose. Some are 8 wheel, some are 4 wheel.

Steve

Greg I have seen the cabooses on da bay, but usually they are way out of my willing to pull the trigger, or when a decent deal comes up no play money. 

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

The Dorfan portion of the collection continues to expand.

I have been trying to figure out why the caboose for this segment of the O gauge line is so difficult to find.  I read in one resource that the caboose was never included in any sets, but was a separate sale item.  That explains its scarcity, but it seems odd considering how plentiful cabooses are for other manufacturers.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Greg, all freight sets I have came with a caboose. Some are 8 wheel, some are 4 wheel.

Steve

Thanks for the response Steve.  Somehow the thoughts in my head did not make it accurately to my typing fingers .  This is what I really meant to say.

I have been trying to figure out why the #607 caboose for the Narrow Gauge freight cars is so difficult to find.  I read in one resource that the 607 eight-wheel caboose appeared in the 1928 catalog.  It was not included in any sets, but was only available as an extra car. That explains its scarcity. I wonder if that was true in other years as well.  I am looking for two examples; one with brass journals and one without, both with black trucks.

I corrected the original post.

Greg

at last,lubed and,,,and running for the 1st time in years,,,,,i have arrived !

TGIF Tinplaters...great pictures everyone.

Here's my prewar Lionel #228 shifting a caboose. 

Tom

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

The Dorfan portion of the collection continues to expand.

I have been trying to figure out why the caboose for this segment of the O gauge line is so difficult to find.  I read in one resource that the caboose was never included in any sets, but was a separate sale item.  That explains its scarcity, but it seems odd considering how plentiful cabooses are for other manufacturers.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Greg, all freight sets I have came with a caboose. Some are 8 wheel, some are 4 wheel.

Steve

Thanks for the response Steve.  Somehow the thoughts in my head did not make it accurately to my typing fingers .  This is what I really meant to say.

I have been trying to figure out why the #607 caboose for the Narrow Gauge freight cars is so difficult to find.  I read in one resource that the 607 eight-wheel caboose appeared in the 1928 catalog.  It was not included in any sets, but was only available as an extra car. That explains its scarcity. I wonder if that was true in other years as well.  I am looking for two examples; one with brass journals and one without, both with black trucks.

I corrected the original post.

Greg

 

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

The Dorfan portion of the collection continues to expand.

I have been trying to figure out why the caboose for this segment of the O gauge line is so difficult to find.  I read in one resource that the caboose was never included in any sets, but was a separate sale item.  That explains its scarcity, but it seems odd considering how plentiful cabooses are for other manufacturers.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Greg, all freight sets I have came with a caboose. Some are 8 wheel, some are 4 wheel.

Steve

Thanks for the response Steve.  Somehow the thoughts in my head did not make it accurately to my typing fingers .  This is what I really meant to say.

I have been trying to figure out why the #607 caboose for the Narrow Gauge freight cars is so difficult to find.  I read in one resource that the 607 eight-wheel caboose appeared in the 1928 catalog.  It was not included in any sets, but was only available as an extra car. That explains its scarcity. I wonder if that was true in other years as well.  I am looking for two examples; one with brass journals and one without, both with black trucks.

I corrected the original post.

Greg

Wow!

George

overlandflyer posted:

smokin' !

How did you do that?

George

George S posted:

overlandflyer posted:

smokin' !

How did you do that? ...

oops, sorry... i didn't notice the bulb was burned out... i'll fix that up next time.

cheers...gary

George S posted:

 

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Wow!

George

wow!

Robert S. Butler posted:

American Flyer Set #16 - ca 1919

  Flyer's set #16 was featured in the catalogs over a number of years and underwent a number of changes with respect to engine type, tender type, and car lithography.  In 1918 Flyer featured Set #16 on the cover

  A close examination of the cover indicates the cars carry the Union Pacific  herald.

  The set below resembles the 1918 cover in many respects save one - the tender.

According the Greenberg guide the tender with "No. 120" on the sides and ends was not offered until 1919.  Given that the set matches the 1918 cover in all other aspects my guess is that it is from 1919 or 1920.

i'm feeling young these days hanging out around all these 100 year olds...

some variations...

Type V locomotive w/ 8 spoke drivers...

white lettered versions...

cheers...gary

George S posted:

How did you do that?

George

or did you mean this...

tissue paper... semi-shaped.

move back and forth for the first few seconds, then pull away quickly.  thin smoke, ~15% of the exposure time; thicker smoke, up to 45-50% of the exposure time.  experiment... it doesn't always turn out great.

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fun stuff!
cheers...gary

Again a few news in the collection.

Bing train indicator for UK

Never seen before, the clocks are different

Bub indicator for the Netherlands

Bing early coach for trainsets

Bing 12/585 build 1928-1932 with light

Bing Bell 10/630/2 made 1930-1932

Heinrich Fischer Train, made around 1925

Greetings

Arne

overlandflyer posted:

George S posted:

How did you do that?

George

or did you mean this...

tissue paper... semi-shaped.

move back and forth for the first few seconds, then pull away quickly.  thin smoke, ~15% of the exposure time; thicker smoke, up to 45-50% of the exposure time.  experiment... it doesn't always turn out great.

=====+++=====

fun stuff!
cheers...gary

 

...But when it does work, it looks great! 

Tom 

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

The Dorfan portion of the collection continues to expand.

...  I am looking for two examples; one with journals and one without, both with black trucks.

brass journals or steel journals...?

i'm always suspicious of Dorfan cars with near perfect roofs.  if it is a repaint, this one certainly deserves it, though.  98% of the litho is C7+

missing an end rail and a bit more "weathered", the brass cupola is another slight variation.

another car variation besides the trucks (deluxe sets - with journal boxes; standard sets without), there were brass and black hardware details.

ladders were only on one side of the boxcars.

cheers...gary

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

 

Beautiful sets Steve!  Who knew that Dorfan could stir such interest and excitement.  It certainly has stirred the green eyed monster that lives within me.    I have always enjoyed the posts that you and Jeff have done on the restoration work you have done on Dorfan basket case engines.   Thanks

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

overlandflyer posted:

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

The Dorfan portion of the collection continues to expand.

...  I am looking for two examples; one with journals and one without, both with black trucks.

brass journals or steel journals...?

 

cheers...gary

 

Gary,

Brass journals.  I have been working on finding the cars with brass journals.  

This was supposed to be an endeavor to add some representative pieces of Dorfan to the collection.  I can see I have already started down a slippery slope.  

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Greg there seems to be no other kind of slope when it comes to vintage train acquisitions!

I actually like to compare it to a cliff!

Dennis Holler posted:

Greg there seems to be no other kind of slope when it comes to vintage train acquisitions!

I actually like to compare it to a cliff!

 

LOL  I couldn't agree more.

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

I finished a multi-weekend project today!  I re-wheeled and tuned up the last two of these engines.  Over the past 6 weeks or so, I have been working on re-wheeling and tuning up (new springs, brushes, headlight holders, headlights, wiring) these engines and making them run like they should.  

The paint on all of these engines, is factory original...even the blue 3116 and orange 3110.

NWL

overlandflyer posted:

George S posted:

How did you do that?

George

or did you mean this...

tissue paper... semi-shaped.

move back and forth for the first few seconds, then pull away quickly.  thin smoke, ~15% of the exposure time; thicker smoke, up to 45-50% of the exposure time.  experiment... it doesn't always turn out great.

=====+++=====

fun stuff!
cheers...gary

 

Hey now, that's a lot more smoke than the 4014 was just blowing!!  

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

 

Gary,

Brass journals.  I have been working on finding the cars with brass journals.  

This was supposed to be an endeavor to add some representative pieces of Dorfan to the collection.  I can see I have already started down a slippery slope.  

you're actually not that far from the bottom... aside from the caboose, of course, which would be a big hurdle.  i'd rate the log car as one of the hardest and the wrecker, next in line... especially if its a functioning car.  i see one of the boxcars up for sale every so often.

i've adapted a Lionel 258 to pull my narrow gauge Dorfan as i have no Dorfan locomotives that run (and only two that don't & never will without a lot of shop time).

good luck...gary