Weekend tinplate photos 📸 and videos 📽 7/4/19!

jhz563 posted:

mlaughlinnyc posted:

jhz563 posted:

Just an old CV looking shiny on the Filing Cabinet Central

There is a locomotive like that in a collection that I bought last week.  It has no identifying marks.  Is this a Marx locomotive ?

Absolutely Marx.  Lots of folks here much more knowledgeable than myself.  Please post a picture if you can 

Here are a few photos.  This engine was an unexpected piece in a Prewar collection that I bought a few weeks ago.  On finding it, my reaction was - is this a piece of junk to put on the free table at the next NETCA meet, or is it worth something ?   I put it on the track this morning and it actually ran several feet in both directions - worth cleaning and lubricating.  I don't have nearly enough room to keep all of the odd pieces that come to me so now how to get the best price for it ?

Having gotten into photography mode with the Commodore, I thought maybe other tinplaters might find some interest in the whole set of steam locomotives in this rather unusual prewar collection - mostly Lionel with oddities from Ives, AF and Marx - over 100 pieces, 11 steam locomotives.  Here's the whole group - AF on the right. Ives on the left. Lionel in the middle and Marx up front.

The AF group is from 1939-41.  The big engine is, I believe, from the 321 passenger set shown in the 1939 catalog along with three streamlined passenger cars including the boat tailed observation.  It's condition is interesting - more later.  The 565 and 566 are the S scale bodies on O gauge mechanisms introduced in 1940-41.

    Not wanting to have too much to look at in one message, I'm going to post this one and continue with the Lionel.

Continuing, now the Lionel locos.  Looks like the collection owner was trying for a set of the low end mid 30's locos, except for a 224E with 2224W tender in beautiful condition.  In the left in back is a late 258, an uncatalogued engine from 1941.  Also a 259, 257 and 262E

Oops !  Missed one in that group photo - how could I have forgotten the Red Comet.  This one must be the 1935 edition as it has the 261T tender.  The 1936 catalog shows a waffle tender (265T).  On the left from the back are 257, 258 and 259.  The 262E is in pieces as I'm working on the motor trying to cure a shorting collector.

There was also a Marx 666 - tries to run in both direction but motor not quite enough to overcome the friction of age.

And now for Ives.  This is the 1122 that was made only in 1929 and 30 just before Lionel took over.  An excellent model of a 4-4-2.   This one was in pretty bad shape.   I dismantling and selling it for parts.  I brought most of it back together for these photos.  I suspect that it was dropped several times.  The pilot is broken off and there is a sheet metal repair of the rear of the cab and a wire hook for attaching the tender,  It came with a sheet metal pilot and smoke box front.  Boiler piping is missing as I've already taken the trim off to sell separately.  There does seem to be a lively market for Ives parts.  I think I can get the motor running.  I've found that the sales value of good operating motors is well worth my time in fixing them.

On further looking and thinking I noticed an interesting family resemblance.  The 259, AF 1680 and Ives 1122 all have the same style sheet metal pilot.  Apparently the owner was getting ready for an operating layout with these engines and appropriate sets of cars.  The collection included a lot of new unused track.  But he departed this world too soon.

Here are the Ives, Lionel 259 and AF 1680

Finally the American Flyer 1680 is an interesting collection of parts, which is how I will sell it.  This one is now an 0-6-4.  It would appear that the front end was seriously damaged and was rebuilt just to have an operating engine.  The front side view is from the dealer who sold me the collection.  Note the detail in the other two photos.  The cylinders are a carved block of wood.  The crosshead guides are bent wire of the same size as the cab fixture on the Ives engine.

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

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now you've got me wondering what the GG1's would look like if the PA had hired Peter Max vs Raymond Loewy

mlaughlinnyc posted:

...   I put it on the track this morning and it actually ran several feet in both directions -...

not at all surprising.  aside from a broken electrical connection, i've rarely found a Marx locomotive that would not run... including clockworks.

yup... this one ran.

mlaughlinnyc posted:

 

And now for Ives.  This is the 1122 that was made only in 1929 and 30 just before Lionel took over.  An excellent model of a 4-4-2.   This one was in pretty bad shape.   I dismantling and selling it for parts.  I brought most of it back together for these photos.  I suspect that it was dropped several times.  The pilot is broken off and there is a sheet metal repair of the rear of the cab and a wire hook for attaching the tender,  It came with a sheet metal pilot and smoke box front.  Boiler piping is missing as I've already taken the trim off to sell separately.  There does seem to be a lively market for Ives parts.  I think I can get the motor running.  I've found that the sales value of good operating motors is well worth my time in fixing them.

On further looking and thinking I noticed an interesting family resemblance.  The 259, AF 1680 and Ives 1122 all have the same style sheet metal pilot.  Apparently the owner was getting ready for an operating layout with these engines and appropriate sets of cars.  The collection included a lot of new unused track.  But he departed this world too soon.

Here are the Ives, Lionel 259 and AF 1680

Finally the American Flyer 1680 is an interesting collection of parts, which is how I will sell it.  This one is now an 0-6-4.  It would appear that the front end was seriously damaged and was rebuilt just to have an operating engine.  The front side view is from the dealer who sold me the collection.  Note the detail in the other two photos.  The cylinders are a carved block of wood.  The crosshead guides are bent wire of the same size as the cab fixture on the Ives engine.

 

very nice score! Yeah the repairs are crude, but there is definitely some talent in them, and he did what he could to keep the engines on the rails. The more I look at the Flyer engine the more I like it. And the Ives engine shell would make a good piece for an engine house /scrap yard scene. So....where is your free table gonna be? 

Steamer posted:

mlaughlinnyc posted:

 

And now for Ives.  This is the 1122 that was made only in 1929 and 30 just before Lionel took over.  An excellent model of a 4-4-2.   This one was in pretty bad shape.   I dismantling and selling it for parts.  I brought most of it back together for these photos.  I suspect that it was dropped several times.  The pilot is broken off and there is a sheet metal repair of the rear of the cab and a wire hook for attaching the tender,  It came with a sheet metal pilot and smoke box front.  Boiler piping is missing as I've already taken the trim off to sell separately.  There does seem to be a lively market for Ives parts.  I think I can get the motor running.  I've found that the sales value of good operating motors is well worth my time in fixing them.

On further looking and thinking I noticed an interesting family resemblance.  The 259, AF 1680 and Ives 1122 all have the same style sheet metal pilot.  Apparently the owner was getting ready for an operating layout with these engines and appropriate sets of cars.  The collection included a lot of new unused track.  But he departed this world too soon.

Here are the Ives, Lionel 259 and AF 1680

Finally the American Flyer 1680 is an interesting collection of parts, which is how I will sell it.  This one is now an 0-6-4.  It would appear that the front end was seriously damaged and was rebuilt just to have an operating engine.  The front side view is from the dealer who sold me the collection.  Note the detail in the other two photos.  The cylinders are a carved block of wood.  The crosshead guides are bent wire of the same size as the cab fixture on the Ives engine.

 

very nice score! Yeah the repairs are crude, but there is definitely some talent in them, and he did what he could to keep the engines on the rails. The more I look at the Flyer engine the more I like it. And the Ives engine shell would make a good piece for an engine house /scrap yard scene. So....where is your free table gonna be? 

Westford, MA but not sure of date.  The NETCA BOD decided on the dates months ago but hasn't published them.  I'm always open to offers :-)

well that's a tad far from Ohio......my e mail is in my profile, let me do some research and shoot me a mail. Maybe we can make a deal.

Thomas Industries "SHAWNEE EXPRESS".  Thomas Industries was located in Shawnee Oklahoma. Original cost of locomotive and tender was $29.95.

This is from the end of the box.

Is that the same Thomas Industries that made an O gauge  2-8-0 postwar and a six dome wine tank car ?

Yes that is the same Thomas Industries. They also made a nice 0-4-0 switcher. They made freight cars and old time passenger cars. They made both 2-rail and 3-rail, ac or DC, in kit form or ready made. They also sold parts like trucks and couplers.

overlandflyer posted:

to celebrate the Chicago Century of Progress...

 

American Flyer offered this floor toy in 1933 for a limited time...

 

thousands sold? ... where did they all go??

 

i've only ever seen one other, including an original box(!!), and as i recall it sold for a price even too crazy for me...

$0.30 in 1933 would be ~$5.80 today.

cheers...gary

Neato- have never seen pictures of the box before. Thanks for posting these.

I have a small but growing collection of gauge one pieces, but only recently acquired a couple boxes of track. The long holiday weekend permitted the opportunity to set it up in the living room. First up is my Elektoy set. I had tested it with clip leads when I purchased it, but this was the first time I ran it on track. Pleased to find that it is an excellent runner!

John Smatlak posted:

I have a small but growing collection of gauge one pieces, but only recently acquired a couple boxes of track. The long holiday weekend permitted the opportunity to set it up in the living room. First up is my Elektoy set. I had tested it with clip leads when I purchased it, but this was the first time I ran it on track. Pleased to find that it is an excellent runner!

 

Really neat stuff, and great that it runs well.

Appreciate the SHORT videos - watching things run once around the track is sufficient.  Multiple passes would be redundant, and we can always re-watch if we want. 

I enjoyed running my Transcontinental Limited set today with the two 2018 TCA Convention Express cars added in.

Chris Lonero posted:

Happy 4th everybody! 🇺🇸 Let’s see your tinplate! 

Chris,

I like your lamp, did you make it yourself?

Pick up my first original STD Gauge Flyer steamer today. Have a few MTH types. 4672 set, 4670 R/C loco and 4671 tender.

Steve

Man, that looks sweet.  How does she run.

William 1 posted:

Man, that looks sweet.  How does she run.

I took it right from the sellers table to the STD Gauge loops at the meet. Ran it about a half hour. Ran very well forward, haven’t played with the reverse yet.

Steve

JOHN S: WOW! That Elecktoy set is quite a jewel, and a sweet runner! THANK YOU for sharing that rare set! Did not know 3 rail gauge one track existed. Interesting!

Steve what kind of track are you running your Flyer standard gauge engine on?

Going to lay some track this week and post a video next time around.  I have a real nice girlfriend now, so have been side tracked, so to speak.  My guys need a run. Always checking in.  Keep it comin.

Cheers,      W1

Southern Crescent 2 posted:

Steve what kind of track are you running your Flyer standard gauge engine on?

It's 5 rail O & Std track I made from USA Track pieces.

Steve