Weekend tinplate photos/videos 11/30/18!

Some Lionel goodies (both pre and postwar) that were on the layout this week include a recently acquired 2360 GG1 from 1956, as well as a prewar streamlined 238 steamer that I've had for some time. I've had a single motor 2332 green GG1 for many years, but it was a real treat to find this dual motor tuscan version. I'd been keeping an eye out for several years for one that was in nice shape with a reasonable price and finally found one. The five rubber-stamped gold stripes on this one have held up well over the years, and it runs like a champ. Enjoy.

Congrats John, your GGI is a real collector dream. Hard to find one with such nice stripes.

For me it will be just a middle range MARKLIN 440 locomotive, an E66-12920 from the thirties. These locos are among the most affordables Marklin models and run very well.

Have a nice tinplate weekend,  Daniel

Gebr. Fleischmann, Nürnberg started making tin toys around 1887; their range of toy steam engines is famous. Only after WW2 they started to make trains. From 1949-1959 they made 0 gauge trains with a 2-rail DC system but still toy-like. From 1952 they started to make H0 model-trains. Here are some passenger cars are found recently; an 0 gauge French CIWL sleeping car and a German DSG restaurant car which share the same tinplate body and have a plastic roof. 

Regards

Fred

American Flyer wide gauge locomotives waiting for the next call.

A Lionel set from 1928 is once again seeing duty under the tree this year.

sncf231e posted:

Gebr. Fleischmann, Nürnberg started making tin toys around 1887; their range of toy steam engines is famous. Only after WW2 they started to make trains. From 1949-1959 they made 0 gauge trains with a 2-rail DC system but still toy-like. From 1952 they started to make H0 model-trains. Here are some passenger cars are found recently; an 0 gauge French CIWL sleeping car and a German DSG restaurant car which share the same tinplate body and have a plastic roof. 

Regards

Fred

Interesting- don't recall ever seeing any of these. Thanks for posting,

Riding the Tinplate Rails...

Tom 

This just arrived.

The roof has been repainted, but I like it. The orange seems to be more weathered than other examples I have seen. There are light streaks in the paint that almost make the sides look like wood planks. I could try to polish it, but that might ruin the effect. 

George

finally got ya beat on that one George....junkbox score a few years ago. I had to make a spout and weight. 

Yours looks great!

Here are a couple of new items for the faithful.

1. Just won this Kibri assortment on Ebay.  Hope those newspapers are prewar and original.  Notice the loads for the carts which seem to be original. And how about the condition of the newstand?  With 3 original prewar boxes to boot!

2.  Reorganized my small Biler display in the "museum/office".  Two of the larger stations are Cabo. The remaining one is KBN.  Can you tell which is which?

Enjoy.  Lew Schneider

Oops. Once again I posted a message without proofreading.  That Kibri building is a Buffet not a newsstand.  And Biller should be spelled with 2 l's.

Lew

ALL very nice! THANKS for sharing!  ☺

Same but different - A study in contrasts - Bing Cudhay Reefers

  The basic litho treatment of the two cars is obviously the same, what is interesting is the difference in final treatment.  Both of the cars were given an overcoat of clear lacquer at the factory but the one on the right must have been done by a newbie.  The clear coat is so thick that it not only changes the hue of the litho it also ran and built up at the very bottom edge of the superstructure.  In fact it is so thick at the base that the picture gives the impression of a painted line. In addition to all of this is the well known Bing penchant for roof color paint. On the other hand the door litho on both cars is about the same with respect to hue so we can infer door printing and finishing was done somewhere else on the production line.

Robert S. Butler posted:

Same but different - A study in contrasts - Bing Cudhay Reefers

  The basic litho treatment of the two cars is obviously the same, what is interesting is the difference in final treatment.  Both of the cars were given an overcoat of clear lacquer at the factory but the one on the right must have been done by a newbie.  The clear coat is so thick that it not only changes the hue of the litho it also ran and built up at the very bottom edge of the superstructure.  In fact it is so thick at the base that the picture gives the impression of a painted line. In addition to all of this is the well known Bing penchant for roof color paint. On the other hand the door litho on both cars is about the same with respect to hue so we can infer door printing and finishing was done somewhere else on the production line.

I sure hope you have insurance on your collection. I have seen a couple of those for sale and the price is pretty rich. They are really nice, and someday I will add a couple.

George

Beautiful vintage litho like those cars is hard to beat, even with the heavy-handed clear coat!

George, actually my collection is a lot smaller than you might think.  I take pictures of items in other peoples collections (I have a simple set up I use for all of my photography and I've been doing this for a long time) which means a fair amount of what I post here and elsewhere is nothing more than so many 0's and 1's stored in my computer memory.  

  In this particular instance both of the cars are mine and the car on the left is one I recently purchased on the bay. It went for $170 which, admittedly, isn't peanuts but it isn't a lot more than the cost of a couple of the better current production cars for modern O.  One thing about the car on the left - it was filthy.  In fact it was so filthy that the pictures made the car look like it was a near ruin.  I kept going back to the auction to review the pictures and finally decided what I was looking at was a lot of dirt on a otherwise very nice car so I put in a bid and won.  As you can see - it cleaned up just fine.

Robert S. Butler posted:

George, actually my collection is a lot smaller than you might think.  I take pictures of items in other peoples collections (I have a simple set up I use for all of my photography and I've been doing this for a long time) which means a fair amount of what I post here and elsewhere is nothing more than so many 0's and 1's stored in my computer memory.  

  In this particular instance both of the cars are mine and the car on the left is one I recently purchased on the bay. It went for $170 which, admittedly, isn't peanuts but it isn't a lot more than the cost of a couple of the better current production cars for modern O.  One thing about the car on the left - it was filthy.  In fact it was so filthy that the pictures made the car look like it was a near ruin.  I kept going back to the auction to review the pictures and finally decided what I was looking at was a lot of dirt on a otherwise very nice car so I put in a bid and won.  As you can see - it cleaned up just fine.

That's a good deal for that car. I have seen them go for twice as much. When I think about it, that's not too far off what I spent on my Ives and Flyer cars. It just starts to add up over time.

George

Robert S. Butler posted:

George, actually my collection is a lot smaller than you might think.  I take pictures of items in other peoples collections (I have a simple set up I use for all of my photography and I've been doing this for a long time) which means a fair amount of what I post here and elsewhere is nothing more than so many 0's and 1's stored in my computer memory.  

  In this particular instance both of the cars are mine and the car on the left is one I recently purchased on the bay. It went for $170 which, admittedly, isn't peanuts but it isn't a lot more than the cost of a couple of the better current production cars for modern O.  One thing about the car on the left - it was filthy.  In fact it was so filthy that the pictures made the car look like it was a near ruin.  I kept going back to the auction to review the pictures and finally decided what I was looking at was a lot of dirt on a otherwise very nice car so I put in a bid and won.  As you can see - it cleaned up just fine.

By the way, do you have any pictures of the Bing cars alongside an Ives or Lionel car? I would like to see what the relative size of those is. I don't have a Bing reference book like I do for Ives and Lionel.

George

I don't have one at the moment but since I do have a few Bing, Ives, and Lionel cars I'll see what I can do for you before the end of the day.

Postwar tin...common but interesting 2458 auto carrier...nice detail for tin.  Also a short video with cars of similar vintage.

Fendermain

I have always admired that 2458 automobile boxcar! NICE postwar tin!  ☺

A twofer this week...

This has had an unusual restoration. I already disassembled it and temporarily put it back together, because it was assembled with the ladder on the back. The switch tower doors have had some type of wood grain applied to them. I'm not sure I like the brown and orange with white window trim as opposed to the cream window trim and base with the orange building and maroon roof. I may try to restore it to original colors but keep the wood grain doors.

George

Here you are George - Note that the size of the Bing Reefer is not the same size as the Bing Boxcar - the boxcar is both taller and wider than the reefer which, in turn, is closest in size to the smaller Ives and American Flyer freights.

George S posted:

Robert S. Butler posted:

George, actually my collection is a lot smaller than you might think.  I take pictures of items in other peoples collections (I have a simple set up I use for all of my photography and I've been doing this for a long time) which means a fair amount of what I post here and elsewhere is nothing more than so many 0's and 1's stored in my computer memory.  

  In this particular instance both of the cars are mine and the car on the left is one I recently purchased on the bay. It went for $170 which, admittedly, isn't peanuts but it isn't a lot more than the cost of a couple of the better current production cars for modern O.  One thing about the car on the left - it was filthy.  In fact it was so filthy that the pictures made the car look like it was a near ruin.  I kept going back to the auction to review the pictures and finally decided what I was looking at was a lot of dirt on a otherwise very nice car so I put in a bid and won.  As you can see - it cleaned up just fine.

By the way, do you have any pictures of the Bing cars alongside an Ives or Lionel car? I would like to see what the relative size of those is. I don't have a Bing reference book like I do for Ives and Lionel.

George

The Bing cars are a great match for Dorfan, Flyer and Ives 8 wheel cars. They all run well together.

Steve

I did not buy a lot at York last month, but I did make some new friends and arranged for some future buys. This was one of those arrangements.

Steve

While H0, it is tinplate. This Sakai outfit looks like a mini STD Gauge set.

Steve

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

I did not buy a lot at York last month, but I did make some new friends and arranged for some future buys. This was one of those arrangements.

Steve

That’s going to be great with your freights! Are you going to paint it?

George

Robert S. Butler posted:

Here you are George - Note that the size of the Bing Reefer is not the same size as the Bing Boxcar - the boxcar is both taller and wider than the reefer which, in turn, is closest in size to the smaller Ives and American Flyer freights.

Ahh! Now I understand the size. I have some Ives 64 series and Dorfan cars that would match the Bing in a mixed consist. They would probably look good behind a little wind-up loco.

George

George S posted:

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

I did not buy a lot at York last month, but I did make some new friends and arranged for some future buys. This was one of those arrangements.

Steve

That’s going to be great with your freights! Are you going to paint it?

George

George, the plan is to paint it Ivory and Red to go with the passenger cars I already have.

Steve

That will be great to see running!

George

Thanks for all of the great posts again this week folks.  I am am a little late in posting because I spent part of yesterday setting up the new display for the season at the Merrill Wisconsin Historical Society Museum.  This has become a yearly tradition for them and I think it is the 5th year that I have done it.  Last year they kept the display up for the entire year and people kept coming to look at it.  The docents run the trains and with supervision visitors, including children, have the opportunity to run the trains. 

The first step was to disassemble the display from last year which was two ovals of Fastrack. 

This year it is a loop of S gauge and a loop of Wide Gauge.

The theme this year is "The Circus is Coming".  Over the years I have collected a variety of circus equipment.  The display includes an original American Flyer Circus set (S gauge), a set of repainted S gauge equipment with a red smoking 290, a repainted Royal Blue with other repainted prewar cars (O gauge) that simulate what Flyer could have done in the prewar era, and a reproduction Ives Circus set (Wide Gauge).  The original plan had been to have three loops of track, one in each gauge, but it would have been too crowded, so I decided on two loops and a number of static displays on "sidings"

I have one more trip to make to the museum to try to fit in a Circus tent and animals into the display.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Greg, that is a really wonderful layout, no doubt you will have a great success with visitors, great job you have done there.

All my best wishes,  Daniel

Great display Greg...visitors of all ages will love it.

Fendermain

WONDERFUL DISPLAY! The circus theme was brilliant and will be enjoyed by many. Your GENEROSITY with both your time and effort bespeaks well for the spirit of the season! KUDOS, my friend!  ☺

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

Thanks for all of the great posts again this week folks.  I am am a little late in posting because I spent part of yesterday setting up the new display for the season at the Merrill Wisconsin Historical Society Museum.  This has become a yearly tradition for them and I think it is the 5th year that I have done it.  Last year they kept the display up for the entire year and people kept coming to look at it.  The docents run the trains and with supervision visitors, including children, have the opportunity to run the trains. 

The first step was to disassemble the display from last year which was two ovals of Fastrack. 

This year it is a loop of S gauge and a loop of Wide Gauge.

The theme this year is "The Circus is Coming".  Over the years I have collected a variety of circus equipment.  The display includes an original American Flyer Circus set (S gauge), a set of repainted S gauge equipment with a red smoking 290, a repainted Royal Blue with other repainted prewar cars (O gauge) that simulate what Flyer could have done in the prewar era, and a reproduction Ives Circus set (Wide Gauge).  The original plan had been to have three loops of track, one in each gauge, but it would have been too crowded, so I decided on two loops and a number of static displays on "sidings"

I have one more trip to make to the museum to try to fit in a Circus tent and animals into the display.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

How about an Ives Diorama

I have the Ives diorama that came with the repro set, but there won't be enough space for the Circus Tent and the diorama. (Images borrowed from Google Images)

(I think this is actually your photo that I  borrowed from Google Images Steve)

I also have the repro Circus cutouts that came with the American Flyer Circus set.

This photo is borrowed from The Gilbert Gallery site of the contents of an original set.

In fact I think I have the old repros and new repros.  The powers that be have talked about providing more space for the trains to be displayed.  Now that would be nice.

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Having some fun with my big helper!