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In the (simple and cheap) M series Hornby made from 1937 till 1940 a train inspired by a PLM (Paris-Lyon Marseille) railway streamlined fast train capable of connecting Paris to Marseille in nine hours. This train was operated from May 22, 1937 so Hornby was very fast in bringing out this model. The shrouded locomotive was a 4-4-2 Atlantic; Hornby’s version is a 0-4-0. Hornby made a clockwork and an electric version and also made a matching coach with the prototypical correct shrouded connection. The train could be had in a set with 1 or with 2 coaches and the locomotive and the coach were also available separately. The locomotive had the catalogue indication AD for the clockwork version and ADE for the electric version.  Note that the coach shown behind the electric version is not an original one but a Hachette reproduction.

Regards

Fred

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I was searching a Bing for Basset Lowke, London and North Western Railway coach third class from the 1921 serie since a long time to complete with my first class coach,so today here it is, 

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And the complete set,

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The set will be completed with a little older coach from 1914, a Carette dinning saloon also for the LNWR.

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Have a great tinplate weekend,       Daniel

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FRENCHTRAINS posted:

I was searching a Bing for Basset Lowke, London and North Western Railway coach third class from the 1921 serie since a long time to complete with my first class coach,so today here it is, 

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Have a great tinplate weekend,       Daniel

Looking great Daniel!

Is this 0 or 1 gauge (and what locomotive will pull this train?)?

Regards

Fred

hope everyone's thanksgiving was great,i took a short vacation to santa fe nm,so thought it would be fitting to show my latest ,omg it took so long to do, creation,almost done,just sat it on this frame for pix,also always wanted some of the larger af prewar o passenger  cars.picked these up at a good price,eventho they belong to the green diamond set,will have to scope out a power car now,terry IMGP1669IMGP1670IMGP1671IMGP1672IMGP1673IMGP1674 

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Chris Lonero posted:
NJCJOE posted:
Chris Lonero posted:

This is a piece I would have loved to have left with at the Greenberg show a couple of weeks ago but it wasn’t in the budget. Let’s see your tinplate! 

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Chris,

You only live once!  

That’s true Joe but Linda would have cut my life way shorter than I planed! 

Chris, having seen your painting / restoration skills on this forum, I bet you could find a gray or black one and paint it for a fraction of the cost. 

 

John 

BlueComet400 posted:
Chris Lonero posted:
NJCJOE posted:
Chris Lonero posted:

This is a piece I would have loved to have left with at the Greenberg show a couple of weeks ago but it wasn’t in the budget. Let’s see your tinplate! 

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Chris,

You only live once!  

That’s true Joe but Linda would have cut my life way shorter than I planed! 

Chris, having seen your painting / restoration skills on this forum, I bet you could find a gray or black one and paint it for a fraction of the cost. 

 

John 

I got one at York without box for like 575 they are out there

terry hudon posted:
BlueComet400 posted:
Chris Lonero posted:
NJCJOE posted:
Chris Lonero posted:

This is a piece I would have loved to have left with at the Greenberg show a couple of weeks ago but it wasn’t in the budget. Let’s see your tinplate! 

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Chris,

You only live once!  

That’s true Joe but Linda would have cut my life way shorter than I planed! 

Chris, having seen your painting / restoration skills on this forum, I bet you could find a gray or black one and paint it for a fraction of the cost. 

 

John 

I got one at York without box for like 575 they are out there

The funny thing is the guy told me that is probably the last one I'll see! I have seen the blue and red version at York myself. I'm willing to bet I'll see this same one next year at the same table!

terry hudon posted:

...,also always wanted some of the larger af prewar o passenger  cars.picked these up at a good price,eventho they belong to the green diamond set,will have to scope out a power car now,terry IMGP1671IMGP1672IMGP1673IMGP1674 

Terry,

if you pick up a Green Diamond power car you will be sadly disappointed, the Green Diamond is a litho green with tan stripe through the windows and the cars are similar to the litho Zephyr or Comet cars. These cars would go with a 1681 "Hudson" loco.

 

Roland

Hi Friends,

 

In the midst of reconfiguring my Dublo empire by selling my Hornby 5083 Terminal and 50085 Suburban stations and replacing them with Kibri.  It must be the result of Chris Lonero's Tinplate Medicine.  The plastic just doesn't look as good although the stations are marvels of design.082-1 KIBRI Ladebrucke mit CRAN mine082-1 KIBRI OVERHEAD CRANE Mine082-1Kibri Crane 1

And here is my latest Kibri HO acquisition catalog 082-1.  It is a cute little devil, and I apologize for spoiling it a bit with an O Gauge Lionel crane hook. Anybody out there have an HO crane hook they don't need?

 

Lew Schneider

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Teledoc, this one runs (now).  It was initially locked up; somehow the lever that modulates the whistle "wadded up" in the motor.  But, it doesn't run very well.  The whistle "bearings" have a lot of wear, causing the fan to drag on the housing.  It looks like I'm going to have to bore them out and machine bronze bushings for it.  

But, back to your question... I haven't had a lot of Lionel windup motors in the shop.  Not only are they uncommon, but I've also noticed a relatively large amount of shells without motors compared to the relatively few running examples that pop up.  That makes me think that they were/are much more prone to failure than other brands.  I do have a Torpedo that is waiting for repair - the ratchet self-destructed, which sounds like the same problem that you have with your 1511's.  Unfortunately, there isn't any way to repair the ratchet without opening the motor up.

I've recently completed my new machine shop, so I hope to start working through my backlog of repairs soon.  I finally moved all the equipment in to it last weekend:

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I helped my dad get his trees and set them up today.  This is his #10 gray and maroon set, built in 1927,  90 years old, as good as new.  Only difference being I'm operating this with a Cab1 and TPC3000, sitting on my lazy boy with my IPhone taking moving pictures.  He asked me to set it up around his tree.  I'm bringing the trusty old 1033.  Cheers.

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WindupGuy posted:

Teledoc, this one runs (now).  It was initially locked up; somehow the lever that modulates the whistle "wadded up" in the motor.  But, it doesn't run very well.  The whistle "bearings" have a lot of wear, causing the fan to drag on the housing.  It looks like I'm going to have to bore them out and machine bronze bushings for it.  

But, back to your question... I haven't had a lot of Lionel windup motors in the shop.  Not only are they uncommon, but I've also noticed a relatively large amount of shells without motors compared to the relatively few running examples that pop up.  That makes me think that they were/are much more prone to failure than other brands.  I do have a Torpedo that is waiting for repair - the ratchet self-destructed, which sounds like the same problem that you have with your 1511's.  Unfortunately, there isn't any way to repair the ratchet without opening the motor up.

I've recently completed my new machine shop, so I hope to start working through my backlog of repairs soon.  I finally moved all the equipment in to it last weekend:

Shop1

 

 

My hand still hurts from that ratchet coming apart.

Steve

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Thank you Fred, the cars are 0 gauge but you can find them in gauge one.

For the loco i think i will use a comon Bing George the Fifth, the clocwork motor is powerfull and can make a long run.

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If i well remember you have a similar one and you have done a nice video on your layout.

Daniel

 

 

Very nice Daniel!  I'll be able to start working on a couple of Bassett Lowke  clockwork locos after I pick up a few more parts.  I have a couple of clockwork motors, loco shells, a tender, and several pilot trucks.  I also have what I think will be a correct set of drivers and tender wheels coming in the post so that will get me close enough to take a serious look at which one to put together first. 

 

I very much appreciate yours, Fred's, and Lew's photos of the various European toy train makers.  It is extremely helpful to me!

Dennis Holler posted:
FRENCHTRAINS posted
 

Very nice Daniel!  I'll be able to start working on a couple of Bassett Lowke  clockwork locos after I pick up a few more parts.  I have a couple of clockwork motors, loco shells, a tender, and several pilot trucks.  I also have what I think will be a correct set of drivers and tender wheels coming in the post so that will get me close enough to take a serious look at which one to put together first. 

 

I very much appreciate yours, Fred's, and Lew's photos of the various European toy train makers.  It is extremely helpful to me!

Thank you Dennis, it is always a pleasure to share something on the OGR forum with you and other members, and i appreciate all your posts on american trains which are not so easy to find in Europe.....  you have some very nice models also.

I wish you good luck with your Basset Lowkes projects,

All my best wishes,  Daniel

Scale is all relative with tinplate, but I still like to see everything in a train relatively the same scale. LOL

Been wanting some tin for my Marx orange 6000 "F-units" to pull. The 7" 4 wheel stuff it came with still seemed small to me. Those orange units are pretty big compared to most Mark tin. Anyway, I found these high truck scale tin cars at the local TCA show today. I think they look pretty good together.

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