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I recently finished getting both colored frames of the early Lionel-Winner Lines freight cars (red & black frames, of the same series (1512,1514,1515,1517).  These were used with the 1588/1588T clockwork, or the 1689E by Lionel.  The cars were listed as early as 1932 from the Winner Electric Train catalog.  The top row of the complete sets was just the black frames alone.  The lower photo is comparison of both framed colors.  The 1514 at top has NO “Baby Ruth” loco, nor Lionel stamping, (presuming this is the early Winner issue).

 

 

This second 1514 has the punched-door handle, Baby Ruth logo, and Lionel stamping

 

The next is a side by side comparison of both 1514 boxcars

 

 

 

 

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The 1514 boxcar without the Lionel is from the Ives 1006 set. Now all you need for the Ives winner series with black frames are the other three Ives units and you will have it covered. The Ives tank car is not a Sunoco unit.

I have had some problems with my new (very old) 262. I finally tore the whole thing down and sprayed the motor with electric motor cleaner made for RC cars. It still did not work, but turned more freely. I took a break, then came back and looked at the pick-up rollers. One was bent. I put a small screw driver under it and popped it up. Well, look at at the results! It moves like a jackrabbit!

I also got my lighting kits installed. One issue for tomorrow, my driver screw keeps unthreading. I need to add a dab of lock-tite.

George

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