sncf231e posted:In France cabooses were unknown. But they did have a Fourgon de queue (tail baggage car) which was used in the same manner as cabooses at the end of a train. Here is the version of JEP of a Fourgon de queue:
Regards
Fred
Fred:
Were these items built for export only? If so, what was the intended market? I'm asking because I find it curious that the words "Made in France" appear in English vs. "Fabriqué en France".
Thanks as always for sharing these.
Steven J. Serenska
there is tinplate here....the home made crane has tin over the wooden cab,,,
my recent train show junk box 2025. Senco Sound Tender,early train show junk box gondola with my home made frame,antique shop home made crane and flat car, and train show junk box work caboose
LIKE that Marklin steeple cab! Was that a branch line narrow gauge prototype?
Arne posted:MNCW posted:Arne posted:
Pressed with 10 tons
Arne
Hey Arne,
Can you explain a little more what material you are using and what tools you are using to get your tinplate wall. Nice look that you ended up with.
Tom
Hello Tom,
at the moment it's just tests. Everything has to be improved.
The tool is made of aluminium, made by hand with a small milling maschine.
After them, I had cutted the tool in 2 parts. In one part was glued a steal wire.
The tinplate for the wall is from old big solvent canister and 0,35 mm thick.
For embossing, I take a simple hydraulic press.
Greetings
Arne
Arne,
I understand you are still in testing mode, but that looks pretty interesting. Please update us from time to time.
Tom
Running some trains today. Got my American Flyer 1681 running and added a lamp socket and bulb to my 3211 caboose.
The tender has a Lionel box coupler, so I created a transition car out of my 3209 sand car. The engine and tender climb. the Lionel O72 Fastrack switch on the curve, and the tender wheels have too much slop. Also, the engine needs too many volts to run, so it will need cleaning and tuning. So, more work to do!
George
George,
That is a great Flyer Train and looks fantastic! Love the lighted 3211 Red Caboose.
HJZ,
Love those Solid red 817's, by the way yours is off the Track, with it's back Trucks.
All the best,
PCRR/Dave
Dennis Holler posted:Well, there is always Marklin ho... but then that is where I started with Marklin and well, I ended up here anyway...
I wonder if they will have prewar Marklin catalogs to look at while laying on the couch???
Have you seen these trains?
http://eshop.merkurtoys.cz/product-lcd7dUd42Q
The Mikado with sound is under $250 new. It looks like it uses a Marklin O coupler. The larger engine is under $800. They are metal trains.
George
Yes, kind of been lusting after those too. The larger one, BR1 is a nice engine for sure. You can find older Merkur stuff on line as well. George, it's not a slope, it's a giant cliff! You can see that the lower priced loco you referenced is a remake of one of their original locos( now with a can motor).
Merkur trains can be had with any coupler you like, including Märklin. They are available in 2-rail and 3-rail. Their Mikado (which is a 2-6-2) is quite cheap:
Their French 140C is a bit more sophisticated and has sound:
Regards
Fred
sncf231e posted:Merkur trains can be had with any coupler you like, including Märklin. They are available in 2-rail and 3-rail. Their Mikado (which is a 2-6-2) is quite cheap:
Their French 140C is a bit more sophisticated and has sound:
Regards
Fred
Thank you Fred! I was hoping to see one of these.
I am looking at the Merkur switches, because I am faced with the dilemma of not being able to run my old American Flyer and Marx through the same switch as my Lionel.
George
Is it a set? Well, as pointed out by a purist, the engine and cars differ in era by two years. Others say it's not unheard of that stock would over run from one era to another by a year or two. Looks like a set to me though, and I've thought so for 20 years. Well, time to let this one go, look in the for sale section.
Worked on my American Flyer 1681 today. I sprayed the motor gears and axels down with CRC electronics cleaner. I worked it a bit and wiped some grime off. Then I used an eraser to clean the wheels and wiped them with a towel dampened with CRC cleaner. Then. I oiled the wheels and greased the gears and straightened a pickup. Now, it runs much better! Here it is pulling the consist with one more car. It is drawing 14 volts and a little under 2 amps. That's more like it!
It will not run through Ross or Fastrack switches, so I am researching options for that.
George
That looks and sounds great George! I'm going to be a meanie and give you a hard time though! Need some tubular track!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
George,
It will not run thru FasTrack Switches, what derails the Tender? Man that is such a fantastic looking Flyer Train, invest in some original 711/072 switches, that is all I can tell ya. Bummer that she will not run thru the FasTrack switches, most Tin will!
PCRR/Dave
Pine Creek Railroad posted:George,
It will not run thru FasTrack Switches, what derails the Tender? Man that is such a fantastic looking Flyer Train, invest in some original 711/072 switches, that is all I can tell ya. Bummer that she will not run thru the FasTrack switches, most Tin will!
PCRR/Dave
Thanks Dave. At least you appreciate the value of Fastrack for running your tinplate, unlike Dennis.
All these videos this week. Sorry for the mess on my workbench/layout. I fixed the broken driver on my JEP 222. Will post how I did it in my JEP thread.
Dennis Holler posted:That looks and sounds great George! I'm going to be a meanie and give you a hard time though! Need some tubular track!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I actually have some tubular track both O and O27, but curves are only O27. I think I have every 3 rail track system except MTH Scaletrax. Fastrack is great for carpet layouts and I started buying it before I got into tinplate. I'll start taking my videos only on the tubular track for you.
George
I agree, I was just kidding you know I used to have a ton of fastrack but sold it when I realized how noisy it was on wood and also figured out that I could not get "cheap" used switches for the track! Tubular is just plane bullet proof! I'm gonna get some of that Menards 0-96 tubular for my upper level I think if I don't do Gargraves. It's a toss up since I have some scale locos that do not like tubular 
Timothy Sprague posted:Is it a set? Well, as pointed out by a purist, the engine and cars differ in era by two years. Others say it's not unheard of that stock would over run from one era to another by a year or two. Looks like a set to me though, and I've thought so for 20 years. Well, time to let this one go, look in the for sale section.
Those look so nice! I wish I had too or three more jobs!!!
Dennis H,
With all your Tin Plate you are going to be most unhappy trying to run GG, because of the depth of the GG Track, it does not play all that well with Tin Plate Trains, forget the switches all together.
If you plan to run Tin Plate a lot, stay with the good old Lionel Conventional Tubular and use the 711/072 switches for best running. The other switches that handled Tin Perfectly is the original old K-Line Super Snap low voltage switches. Good luck finding them however. RMT's are not exactly the same and have other problems. I tell you this from experience, FasTrack is Great with the Command Control switches, but as George has pointed out, some of the early Tin will not go thru the switches, mostly this is because of some of the 12 wheel tenders with the deep set Trucks. For your Scale engines that do not like Tubular, use some sound suppression ceiling tile and run the FasTrack with the 072 CC switches and Legacy Cab2 HHRC. Incredible engineering, no wiring needed.
For these reasons I run either Lionel Conventional Tubular or FasTrack with my Tin Plate Trains.
PCRR/Dave
The Donovan's Reef Bar Top Layout, built with FasTrack and 072 FTCC Switches.
The lower FT layout features a 14' Tunnel thru the Bar, with 072 FTCC Switches also.
I did some windup motor repairs today, including this Marx mechanical whistling motor:
I love the creativity and engineering that went into these motors. Lionel actually patented the mechanical whistling motor, and somehow Marx either secured the rights to use their patent, or perhaps purchased it outright. I found that out when a very knowledgeable Marx collector pointed out the patent numbers on the box of a Marx mechanical whistling set, and then showed me a copy of the patent. These are part of the public record, so if you want to search for "US Patent 2143513" you can find this image and the accompanying text:
Of course, it is in the name of C. V. Giaimo, but the text of the patent makes it clear that it was connected to Lionel:
The Marx version is significantly different than the Lionel version, but the patent covers the basic principles.
So there you go, a little connection between Marx & Lionel...
George S posted:It will not run through Ross or Fastrack switches, so I am researching options for that.George
In order to get the 6 wheel motor to run around the 40" curves that Flyer sold with the "Hudson" the back to back wheel spacing is too narrow to go through a Lionel switch. They tend to ride up on the guide rails.
If you look at Merkur http://eshop.merkurtoys.cz/category/?cat=2-11-10
About halfway down the page they have switches/turnouts that are built like the old Flyer turnouts with a rotating sector rather than a moving set of points with a guide rail. They are available in 3 different radii with both manual and electric operation. They will mate to Lionel easily. they are not cheap, but anything including Marx with the thick gear should be able to run through them
The R number is the Radius in mm 900 being roughly 072.
good luck
Roland
rdigilio posted:George S posted:It will not run through Ross or Fastrack switches, so I am researching options for that.George
In order to get the 6 wheel motor to run around the 40" curves that Flyer sold with the "Hudson" the back to back wheel spacing is too narrow to go through a Lionel switch. They tend to ride up on the guide rails.
If you look at Merkur http://eshop.merkurtoys.cz/category/?cat=2-11-10
About halfway down the page they have switches/turnouts that are built like the old Flyer turnouts with a rotating sector rather than a moving set of points with a guide rail. They are available in 3 different radii with both manual and electric operation. They will mate to Lionel easily. they are not cheap, but anything including Marx with the thick gear should be able to run through them
The R number is the Radius in mm 900 being roughly 072.
good luck
Roland
Roland,
Thank you. I am looking at these. Will modern trains run through them as well, for example Lionel and MTH?
I am planning to build a staging yard where I can move trains on and off the main layout. I will need a few switches to make this work.
George
Merkur also makes a big tinplate style turntable!
jhz563 posted:Well I couldn’t wait any longer to see 2816s in action. So with a little bit oil and a twisty tie - away we go!😁
Thant's a great way to get around the differences in couplers. I can almost hear the engineer shouting, "Hey y'all, watch this!"
Dennis Holler posted:Merkur also makes a big tinplate style turntable!
so did I.....
Early Ives 1134, 4-4-0. Later 1134’s shared the Dorfan/Flyer casting and were 4-4-2’s. This one has an original motor, but a repro casting. The tender is too straight so I suspect the shell is also a repro.
.
Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:Early Ives 1134, 4-4-0. Later 1134’s shared the Dorfan/Flyer casting and were 4-4-2’s. This one has an original motor, but a repro casting. The tender is too straight so I suspect the shell is also a repro.
.
Steve,
Very nice!
Also, I love the idea of tubular track on carpet over foam over plywood (I can see it on the edge of your layout). I think I am going to try that.
George
love the green
Steve,
Got to agree with Steamer, serious Green Tin!
PCRR/Dave
George S posted:rdigilio posted:George S posted:It will not run through Ross or Fastrack switches, so I am researching options for that.George
In order to get the 6 wheel motor to run around the 40" curves that Flyer sold with the "Hudson" the back to back wheel spacing is too narrow to go through a Lionel switch. They tend to ride up on the guide rails.
If you look at Merkur http://eshop.merkurtoys.cz/category/?cat=2-11-10
About halfway down the page they have switches/turnouts that are built like the old Flyer turnouts with a rotating sector rather than a moving set of points with a guide rail. They are available in 3 different radii with both manual and electric operation. They will mate to Lionel easily. they are not cheap, but anything including Marx with the thick gear should be able to run through them
The R number is the Radius in mm 900 being roughly 072.
good luck
Roland
Roland,
Thank you. I am looking at these. Will modern trains run through them as well, for example Lionel and MTH?
I am planning to build a staging yard where I can move trains on and off the main layout. I will need a few switches to make this work.
George
answered in the Buying Merkur post
Roland
Steamer posted:Dennis Holler posted:Merkur also makes a big tinplate style turntable!
so did I.....
Steamer (Dave) I'm really digging your scratch built turntable! Is the bottom from a Lazy Susan or something else? I'm thinking I'd like to build something similar, I already have the plate girder bridges!
Rusty
Diverging Clear posted:Steamer posted:Dennis Holler posted:Merkur also makes a big tinplate style turntable!
so did I.....
Steamer (Dave) I'm really digging your scratch built turntable! Is the bottom from a Lazy Susan or something else? I'm thinking I'd like to build something similar, I already have the plate girder bridges!
Rusty
both turntables are quite head turners,,,
not quite sure what the "official" name of the part is. My late Uncle Jim had bought a backhoe, and the swivel part on the seat was rotted. He found an exact replacement at Home Depot. As soon as I saw it, I thought of a turn table. It was around $25. If a person had the know how, I'll bet it could be motorized, but for what I do it's fine with manual operation.
Dennis Holler posted:Merkur also makes a big tinplate style turntable!
This thing looks awesome! I didn't even know about Merkur trains. I tried finding this item on their website last night but no luck. Judging by the two pieces of straight track on the turntable I'd assume the table is 20" long, but that's based on the idea of a 10" straight from Lionel.
(I am slowly becoming more "enamaled" with tinplate than anything else! I may need to buy some scale equipment later this year before I am lost to the shiny side forever!!!!)
It's on the Merkur site under buildings or scenery and not track I think. They also show it as out of stock currently and when in it was in stock, it cost something like $550 depending on the exchange rate. It really looks like a neat turntable though. Looking at pictures on line, Marklin made a large 0 turntable at one time but I bet it would be hard to locate. I see it on a catalog scan I have as being 53 cm. Maybe Fred or Daniel have seen one close up and can comment on it or its availability. I've only seen the smaller ones on ebay.
Access to this requires an OGR Forum Supporting Membership
