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In 1969 Dutchman Hans Willeboordse started a small manufacturing company in Switzerland called WILAG to produce replicas of the pre-war tinplate Gauge 1 57 cm Märklin coaches. After making a series of these he also made a series of Gauge 1 Rheingold coaches based on the prewar Märklin 0 gauge types and then he made a series of a bit more detailed tinplate PLM coaches. The PLM (Compagnie des Chemins de fer de Paris à Lyon et à la Méditerranée) ran trains between Paris and the south of France and its coaches were colorful: green for third class; yellow/black for second class and red/black for first class; the PLM baggage cars were green:

Here you can see this train with the matching ASTER PLM live steam pacific:

Regards

Fred

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Last week i had the opportunity to buy for a fair price this set of LR trains, it dates from 1938, an original catalog from may 1938 was included with the set.
The french brand LR is the third of the most famous french toy trains manufacturer after JEP and HORNBY. The major problem with those nice trains is the flacking paint due to a direct painting on steel and very often have zamack parts prone to disintegrate.
Anyway this set even if not perfect is still a nice one to add to the collection.

1938-11938-21938-31938-41938-5

As usually have a nice tinplate weekend, Daniel

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Bought this Rich-Art Ives 3237 at last years Cal-Stewart meet. Did a jumper wire test before I bought it and it ran well, but noisy which is normal for Rich- Art. When I got it home and put it on the track, it rocked back and forth, sitting mostly on the center rollers. Someone had installed a new pick up with insulator over the old insulator which wouldn't be too bad, but they did not open the holes to allow the retaining tabs to go through both insulators. The rollers could not compress on the center rail. Finally cured it today. One more project done. Still can't see the top of the work bench though.

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Some Sunset Trains and Toys passenger cars I got a while back. They were listed as prototypes/ production samples. I believe that to be true. I had some others I bought direct from Jerry and they were nicer than these. They all came set up as 1 Gauge but there were a few wheel and truck styles on them and none of them really worked. I swapped out the 1 Gauge trucks with O. Also two roof styles, one type being too short and poorly formed. They will still look pretty nice behind my 263E.

The first two photo's show still with the 1 Gauge trucks.

Sunset 1 Gauge 1Sunset 1 Gauge 2Sunset 1Sunset 2Sunset 3Sunset 4Sunset 5

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Thanks Joe, I need to get the decals, but they turned out pretty good.

Dennis, yes and no. I dragged my feet on my 4-8-4 for 10 years I believe until I made a serious push this winter to get it done. My work switched us from 21 turn, to 12 hour shifts, and that really sucked out any ambition for a lot of us. But in February I took a move up that put me on 15 turn, and the ambition is finally coming back.

Plus these tinplate cars are pretty easy to knock out.

sncf231e posted:

In 1969 Dutchman Hans Willeboordse started a small manufacturing company in Switzerland called WILAG to produce replicas of the pre-war tinplate Gauge 1 57 cm Märklin coaches. 

Regards

Fred

Fred:

Some of these trains you show make me go weak at the knees.  I'm beginning to think you enjoy torturing me... 

 

After making a series of these he also made a series of Gauge 1 Rheingold coaches based on the prewar Märklin 0 gauge types and then he made a series of a bit more detailed tinplate PLM coaches.

Do you have photos of these O Gauge cars?  Or can you point us to a website that shows them?

Thanks as always for sharing.

Steven J. Serenska

Fred, Daniel and anyone else interested in this curiosity. Some of Marklin's hardest to find tinplate passenger coaches are the Gauge 0 and Gauge 1 Cleopatra, Alberta, Dining Saloon, and Car Nr 4 Third Class for the UK market.  I just picked up a replica made out of wood with Bassett Lowke 6 wheel trucks (original Marklin coaches had four wheels) and Marklin couplers.  Truly bizarre but the price was cheap. It makes for a good conversation piece. Cleopatra Dark 1

Lew

Steamer posted:

Thanks Joe, I need to get the decals, but they turned out pretty good.

Dennis, yes and no. I dragged my feet on my 4-8-4 for 10 years I believe until I made a serious push this winter to get it done. My work switched us from 21 turn, to 12 hour shifts, and that really sucked out any ambition for a lot of us. But in February I took a move up that put me on 15 turn, and the ambition is finally coming back.

Plus these tinplate cars are pretty easy to knock out.

I know what you mean!  BTW I have a box packed up for you, will get it out Monday.

lewrail posted:

Fred, Daniel and anyone else interested in this curiosity. Some of Marklin's hardest to find tinplate passenger coaches are the Gauge 0 and Gauge 1 Cleopatra, Alberta, Dining Saloon, and Car Nr 4 Third Class for the UK market.  I just picked up a replica made out of wood with Bassett Lowke 6 wheel trucks (original Marklin coaches had four wheels) and Marklin couplers.  Truly bizarre but the price was cheap. It makes for a good conversation piece. Cleopatra Dark 1

Lew

Lew,  i would enjoy to see that car but the picture doesn't show up.

Daniel

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Some Sunset Trains and Toys passenger cars I got a while back. They were listed as prototypes/ production samples. I believe that to be true. I had some others I bought direct from Jerry and they were nicer than these. They all came set up as 1 Gauge but there were a few wheel and truck styles on them and none of them really worked. I swapped out the 1 Gauge trucks with O. Also two roof styles, one type being too short and poorly formed. They will still look pretty nice behind my 263E.

The first two photo's show still with the 1 Gauge trucks.

Sunset 1 Gauge 1Sunset 1 Gauge 2Sunset 1Sunset 2Sunset 3Sunset 4Sunset 5

Steve, is this the loco that was made for those cars?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Prewar...1:g:5QsAAOSw-89ZRWXJ

 

Dennis Holler posted:
Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Some Sunset Trains and Toys passenger cars I got a while back. They were listed as prototypes/ production samples. I believe that to be true. I had some others I bought direct from Jerry and they were nicer than these. They all came set up as 1 Gauge but there were a few wheel and truck styles on them and none of them really worked. I swapped out the 1 Gauge trucks with O. Also two roof styles, one type being too short and poorly formed. They will still look pretty nice behind my 263E.

The first two photo's show still with the 1 Gauge trucks.

Sunset 1 Gauge 1Sunset 1 Gauge 2

Steve, is this the loco that was made for those cars?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Prewar...1:g:5QsAAOSw-89ZRWXJ

 

Dennis

Yes that is the type loco Jerry made to go with them. I do have that type shell and frame with a Marx 1998 Diesel motor inside it.

Steve

Robert S. Butler posted:

MLAUGHLINNYC - that cabin and roof combination was used on a number of the American Flyer elevated watchmen shanties (for example #214 offered in 1938).  The cabin with a different roof was the basis for later versions of the #234 Suburban station.

Thanks for the tip Robert.  I should have thought of looking in my 1938 AF catalog.  I see the cabin also sits on the No. 2 Trestle bridge "with Tender's cabin.  That indicates that the bridge should be mounted on a center pier so it will look like a drawbridge that needs a tender.

FRENCHTRAINS posted:
lewrail posted:

Fred, Daniel and anyone else interested in this curiosity. Some of Marklin's hardest to find tinplate passenger coaches are the Gauge 0 and Gauge 1 Cleopatra, Alberta, Dining Saloon, and Car Nr 4 Third Class for the UK market.  I just picked up a replica made out of wood with Bassett Lowke 6 wheel trucks (original Marklin coaches had four wheels) and Marklin couplers.  Truly bizarre but the price was cheap. It makes for a good conversation piece. Cleopatra Dark 1

Lew

Hi Daniel.  I am staring at the picture as I type. Don't know why you can't see it.  Lew

I'll try sending direct

Lew,  i would enjoy to see that car but the picture doesn't show up.

Daniel

 

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