Weekend tinplate photos/videos 7/15/16.

My old, smaller Std Gauge portable layout.

Steve

Standard Gauge tinplate is displayed to help tell the story of the Jersey Central's Blue Comet at the Whippany Railway Museum in Whippany, New Jersey. 

Bob

Hornby trains time today. High voltage Metropolitain set for the french market, still running well 90 years later.

And as it is summer time, do you know that Hornby also manufactured some very nice clockwork boats. This one is for the french market and is around 1935

Have a nice weekend everybody,

Daniel

This week a lithographed tinplate 0 gauge British Pullman car with name Mayflower made by ACE a few year ago. As comparison a pre-war Hornby Pullman car named Iolanthe.

These British Pullman cars were not sleepers but luxury day coaches. The real Pullman Mayflower ran in commuter trains of the Metropolitan Railway to and from London; commuters could have breakfast in the morning and tea in the afternoon. Here is a video of a tinplate version of such a train with Pullman running in the garden:

Regards

Fred

Note: I just noticed that Daniel also had a post with the Metropolitan Railway; just coincidence but a good combination. 

Daniel and Fred, thank you for regularly posting pictures and details of European tinplate, it is really beautiful craftsmanship and helps remind us how wide and varied and marvelous the tinplate world is.

Closer to home, I'm posting pictures of the Marx #304 livestock corral, made of tinplate pressed steel, the set came with the loading chute and 12 sections of fence that interlock.  It is scaled about right for the vintage lead-cast animals made by Britains, Johillco, Timpo, Manoil and others.  Ives stock car spotted on the siding for loading!

My tinplate offering this week is an uncataloged set by American Flyer. Uncataloged sets are not that unusual. To my knowledge many times they were made up of items that did appear in the Flyer catalogs, but they contained different combinations of items than what appeared in the cataloged sets.  Flyer is notorious for making up sets for retailers.  I don't believe these cars in this color combination ever appeared in the catalog.

The set is headed up by a Type XIX  steam engine #614.  It has a few  issues. The print on the tender is not very clear but it says Champion.

I have seen several variations of the baggage car where the door is green or it has lithographed details.

I know of at least one car that has the same color orange roof but it is the older style with square corners.

Have a great tinplate weekend

Greg

Chris Lonero posted:

This week starts out with my standard gauge 124  station I restored.  From starting with the first photo of what it looked like when I bought it's been disassembled,stripped and repainted. I'm just waiting on some detail parts to finish it up. This model didn't originally come with interior lights and corner lights but those are some of the parts I have on order. The newly painted roof looks weird in the picture but it must be the light?       Let's see your tinplate! 

 

wonderful job, looking forward to seeing its progress.

Well it looks like this weekend is dedicated to French Hornby on the Forum.  Here are a couple of photos from my collection.  The Arras signal box is not easy to find in the USA and the station is a subject of great debate among my friends.  I contend that the fence is factory applied, but they say that the #1 station never (jamais!!!) had a fence.

Enjoy..

Lew Schneider

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Hornby trains time today. High voltage Metropolitain set for the french market, still running well 90 years later.

And as it is summer time, do you know that Hornby also manufactured some very nice clockwork boats. This one is for the french market and is around 1935

Have a nice weekend everybody,

Daniel

The  European tinplate is always an education for me.   Very interesting pieces. I had no idea that Hornby made clock work boats and the idea of a "High voltage" train intended for children back in the day blows my mind!    

lewrail posted:

Well it looks like this weekend is dedicated to French Hornby on the Forum.  Here are a couple of photos from my collection.  The Arras signal box is not easy to find in the USA and the station is a subject of great debate among my friends.  I contend that the fence is factory applied, but they say that the #1 station never (jamais!!!) had a fence.

Enjoy..

 

Lew Schneider

I noticed the Hachette PLM in the photo. I have that set as well.

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

My tinplate offering this week is an uncataloged set by American Flyer. Uncataloged sets are not that unusual. To my knowledge many times they were made up of items that did appear in the Flyer catalogs, but they contained different combinations of items than what appeared in the cataloged sets.  Flyer is notorious for making up sets for retailers.  I don't believe these cars in this color combination ever appeared in the catalog.

 

The set is headed up by a Type XIX  steam engine #614.  It has a few  issues. The print on the tender is not very clear but it says Champion.

 

I have seen several variations of the baggage car where the door is green or it has lithographed details.

 

 

I know of at least one car that has the same color orange roof but it is the older style with square corners.

Have a great tinplate weekend

Greg

 

The way that little loco is squating,it looks to me like it is really lugging hard! Sort of like Casey  Junior in the movie "Dumbo."

Be it ever so humble, there's no place like home. Especially with a vintage pickup parked in the yard!

have my first piece of Ives rolling stock headed my way.

Here's my newest tinplate acquisition, a 1931 vintage Wynadotte metal truck. i've already started removing paint in this picture and the wheels were broken so they went in the trash. I've ordered replacement wood wheels and today I'll do the base coat of royal blue paint. When I'm done it will be royal blue and almond. It should be a nice addition to the basement central.

Jim O'C posted:

I noticed the Hachette PLM in the photo. I have that set as well.

Jim,

I wonder whether that is an Hachette model; I assume it is French Hornby like this:

Lew should know of course.

Regards

Fred

Issues 48, 49, 50 and 55 of the Hachette magazine series of 70. 50 and 55 were just a duplication of the passenger coach.

Pete in Kansas posted:

Here's my newest tinplate acquisition, a 1931 vintage Wynadotte metal truck. i've already started removing paint in this picture and the wheels were broken so they went in the trash. I've ordered replacement wood wheels and today I'll do the base coat of royal blue paint. When I'm done it will be royal blue and almond. It should be a nice addition to the basement central.

be sure and show us when it's done!

Steamer posted:

have my first piece of Ives rolling stock headed my way.

"One thing is absolutely certain.  Every collector, regardless of his original interests or intentions, sooner or later is going to have to face the matter of Ives trains... Indeed, it is almost impossible to escape the lure of Ives."

–  "Collecting Model Trains", by Louis Hertz, 1956; page 49.

now I need to find a place for the shelves I'll need to build for the forth coming Ives collection....

lewrail posted:

Well it looks like this weekend is dedicated to French Hornby on the Forum.  Here are a couple of photos from my collection.  The Arras signal box is not easy to find in the USA and the station is a subject of great debate among my friends.  I contend that the fence is factory applied, but they say that the #1 station never (jamais!!!) had a fence.

Enjoy..

 

Lew Schneider

Lew, I took a look at your site, brilliant collection, the toys and trains blow me away! Thanks for sharing......as with all these wonderful pics.

I've a long way to go to get anywhere near these great collections on here!

Added another version of the Pride Lines O Trolleys to the stable.

Steve

Decided my tinplate railroad was missing something. Then it hit me: where is the army? Since I already had a (small) army base online, would make sense to have some cars for it. Only problem with that is that Lionel and Marx, the only companies that made tinplate military trains, made ones that were collectible. This put them outside of my budget. So yesterday I spent a fair bit of the afternoon designing a Troop Sleeper on the computer, then printed it on card stock and assembled it to mock up what the end result would be if I got it printed on sheet metal. I plan to use trucks on the actual ones instead of the Marx frame, but that was what I had on hand. What do y'all think?

that looks good!

Here is a new American Flyer freight car. This completes the set I was working on (for now).  When I get carpet central running again, I will have pics of the whole train.

sncf231e posted:

Jim O'C posted:

I noticed the Hachette PLM in the photo. I have that set as well.

Jim,

I wonder whether that is an Hachette model; I assume it is French Hornby like this:

Lew should know of course.

Regards

Fred

That is an original French Hornby PLM express train.  You can distinguish it from Hachette easily by seeing if there is a vertical gold stripe going up from the bottom on the side near the front up towards the smoke stack then curving around the smoke stack and going down the other side.  You can see it in the photo above.  One of the original versions of this train contained  the locomotive and the one observation car.  Although the publicity catalog photo showed a locomotive and 4 cars, the clockwork and electric sets each were offered with only one or two cars.

Lew Schneider

Chris Lonero posted:

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Hornby trains time today. High voltage Metropolitain set for the french market, still running well 90 years later.

And as it is summer time, do you know that Hornby also manufactured some very nice clockwork boats. This one is for the french market and is around 1935

Have a nice weekend everybody,

Daniel

The  European tinplate is always an education for me.   Very interesting pieces. I had no idea that Hornby made clock work boats and the idea of a "High voltage" train intended for children back in the day blows my mind!    

Daniel's High Voltage set is wonderful, although I'd be afraid to operate it.  As I posted earlier, I have the coaches but not the locomotive.  

The clockwork boats are similar to boats offered by Lionel in the 1930s.  There were 8 varieties (plus different colors in each variety) listed in the spectacular colored 1935 catalogue which included trains, boats, meccano "outfits", the Elektron electrical "outfits", Kimex chemical "outfits", motor car construction "outfits" and airplane construction "outfits" .  I have the Gannet speed boat which is similar to Daniel's though not in as beautiful condition.  

Lew Schneider

George S posted:

Here is a new American Flyer freight car. This completes the set I was working on (for now).  When I get carpet central running again, I will have pics of the whole train.

Those are nice George! 

New to me: All original early-colors 440 Signal Bridge.

Have been frustrated by all the couplers in the prewar era, as I like to run lithoed trains together, and like to run my 258. 3 different types of couplers to deal with, yuck. So this morning I made some coupler adapters, identified left to right: slot and tab (or Ives) to prewar Marx scissor coupler, Marx to Ives/AF, latch to slot and tab.

Hope that y'all enjoy your Sunday, and find these helpful.

My Wynadotte truck came out pretty good but now I need to decide what logo's to put on it and what load to put in the back. I had to buy a number of the wood wheels so I may put a tire and wheel load in the back and look for a logo for a tire company. Or there is always a Dairy and milk cans that I can use.

I also started working on a B&M PS-1 Boxcar but this on is going to take me a while as I need to get new number plates and a few other parts to finish it.

New on the Torsion Rail Lines... Hafner M-10000:

Nice James. Have recently been shopping around for the Zephyr version which seems harder to find.

Jim O'C posted:

Nice James. Have recently been shopping around for the Zephyr version which seems harder to find.

Yes, I would love to have the Zephyr version too, and would like an AF Zephyr as well... but neither are exactly common, and it doesn't help that I'm a bit of a tightwad.  So, a couple of years ago, I decided to make a Marx "Zephyr" out of some beat-up articulated passenger cars.  It's powered by a Marx Riser-Gear windup motor.  Not the prettiest thing, but it does run well:

WindupGuy posted:

Jim O'C posted:

Nice James. Have recently been shopping around for the Zephyr version which seems harder to find.

Yes, I would love to have the Zephyr version too, and would like an AF Zephyr as well... but neither are exactly common, and it doesn't help that I'm a bit of a tightwad.  So, a couple of years ago, I decided to make a Marx "Zephyr" out of some beat-up articulated passenger cars.  It's powered by a Marx Riser-Gear windup motor.  Not the prettiest thing, but it does run well:

 

There is an AF Zephyr up for sale on the fleabay currently that is pretty affordable. It's the lithoed version, but since you are looking...

I appreciate the tip, but all the AF Zephyrs that I see on fleabay at this time are electric... I'm strictly a windup guy. 

WindupGuy posted:

I appreciate the tip, but all the AF Zephyrs that I see on fleabay at this time are electric... I'm strictly a windup guy. 

 

Keep forgetting there was a lithoed electric Zephyr from AF. 

The Hafner Zephyrs were basically the M10000 with a Zephyr nose. I believe the parts were interchangeable as well.

Picked up this odd Marx C&S 555 boxcar over the weekend. Had not seen this version before and it is not listed in Walt Hiteshew's CD catalog. This one has an extra red Marx logo on one side. standard issue

new acquisition

"extra stuff"

Ready to pull out.