DOC posted:The Dorfan Crane is a T-Reproduction. I have seen a few others but the legs were broken. Cost was not that bad. Always thought it would look nice on the layout. Now to find a spot for it.
I like the T-Reproductions. They did a nice job. I'm sure it was a little more reasonable than an original...
George
John Smatlak posted:George S posted:John Smatlak posted:Lionel 248 O gauge engine of 1930-31 with a set of Lionel 600-601-602 passenger cars of 1933-34 in the attractive gray/red color scheme. I believe this engine would only have been with earlier 4-wheel cars, but it looks great with these and has no problem pulling them, even up the steep grade on my layout (check out the video). And as seen in the video the cars also fit in nicely with the 1930's era Leland Detroit monorail. Enjoy!
Hi John,
You have some very cool stuff on your layout. What is the crane in the second photo?
George
Thanks George- the crane is an NBN Nuremberg dock crane with a clockwork mechanism that lets you control up/down on the bucket as well as rotation. This same basic crane was made for many years in Germany, I believe originally by Gely and later by NBN, The lithograph decoration and colors changed, but the basic unit stayed the same. Mine has plain walls on the base, earlier ones had lithographed industrial scenes. Here's a video I made back in March showing the dock crane swinging around, along with the Orobr clockwork stationary power plant cranked up next to it.
Just wonderful!
George
DOC posted:The Dorfan Crane is a T-Reproduction. I have seen a few others but the legs were broken. Cost was not that bad. Always thought it would look nice on the layout. Now to find a spot for it.
Good to know!!
George, So with the addition of the American Flyer Great Northern Boxcar does that give you the complete run of all of the larger lithographed Flyer freight cars (4 boxcars, 4 gondolas, the flat with lumber, and the tank car)?
Robert S. Butler posted:George, So with the addition of the American Flyer Great Northern Boxcar does that give you the complete run of all of the larger lithographed Flyer freight cars (4 boxcars, 4 gondolas, the flat with lumber, and the tank car)?
Hi Robert,
I am still missing the NYC and PRR gondolas and the tank car. I missed out on an NYC gondola recently on a Buy it Now auction.
Until you mentioned it, I was not even aware of the PRR gondola. I set out to collect just the boxcars, then bought a gondola, then got the other gondola and log car by accident in a large auction lot. The tank car was also recently on eBay. I have never seen the PRR gondola except in the book. There is a 3025 crane too, but Greenberg says this is part of the 3200 series.
George
George, that's great. I see by your post on the other thread that you were able to get the GN for a reasonable price. It also sounds like the apparent large rust spot on one side wasn't - that's even better.
With regards to the tank car there are two variations which have to do with the way the handrails are attached.
There is the 5 stanchion version
and the three stanchion version
...and there are a couple of odd balls that are out there.
This one has a complete overprint of black litho which covers up all of the script American Flyer label. If you look at the car in reflected sunlight it looks like the litho for the "American Flyer Tank Line" part did not print correctly - that is there are pics in the litho surface. I've only seen this single car but there have to be more out there - no one would just run an overprint for a single car
The second one has to be a tool test car - it is the old lithography but it has holes punched for ladders/platforms and nameplates which were part of the enameled tank cars which were manufactured later. It is easy to see this car never had these things attached. I've seen one other car like this but, again, there have to be more out there.
Steamer posted:yes that would be a problem.....
Oh, so you want a set of the Gray and Red cars to restore too? 
Robert S. Butler posted:George, that's great. I see by your post on the other thread that you were able to get the GN for a reasonable price. It also sounds like the apparent large rust spot on one side wasn't - that's even better.
There is a little rust on the other side. I don't think it's too bad, but the car is not a high end collectible.
George
Robert S. Butler posted:George, that's great. I see by your post on the other thread that you were able to get the GN for a reasonable price. It also sounds like the apparent large rust spot on one side wasn't - that's even better.
With regards to the tank car there are two variations which have to do with the way the handrails are attached.
There is the 5 stanchion version
and the three stanchion version
...and there are a couple of odd balls that are out there.
This one has a complete overprint of black litho which covers up all of the script American Flyer label. If you look at the car in reflected sunlight it looks like the litho for the "American Flyer Tank Line" part did not print correctly - that is there are pics in the litho surface. I've only seen this single car but there have to be more out there - no one would just run an overprint for a single car
The second one has to be a tool test car - it is the old lithography but it has holes punched for ladders/platforms and nameplates which were part of the enameled tank cars which were manufactured later. It is easy to see this car never had these things attached. I've seen one other car like this but, again, there have to be more out there.
This is great Robert! I do want a litho tank car. Doubt I will try to get all of the variations. What you have amazes me!
These tankers were far less common than the 3210's. The story is that the litho cars did not sell well. So, AF did not make them for very long and then switched to the enameled cars.
George
George S posted There is a little rust on the other side. I don't think it's too bad, but the car is not a high end collectible.
George
nice find George!
Dennis Holler posted:Steamer posted:yes that would be a problem.....
Oh, so you want a set of the Gray and Red cars to restore too?
Erie Std Gauge freight.
Steve
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