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From time to time we get discussions on this forum that are basically: "Should I buy an older, used model of a locomotive I really want, or the new model with more/later features, usually at a higher cost and perhaps more prone to electronic glitches/breakdown?   Often a key point is that no one is offering new models of that particularly loco.  So should you wait adn hope someone produces an updated model soon, or go ahead and buy the older model? 

 

I've bought my share (maybe more) of used locos, and been happy with them. But I've decided to wait for the following in new technology.  I'm just curious what others are waiting/wishing for . . .

 

I'm waiting for the following models that have been made in the past, and are available used from time to time.  I don't care at all about the manufacturer - Lionel, MTH, even WBB, as long as I get  "Vision"-level features, detail, and sound in scale locomotive

PRR T-1 (I love it.  I just want a big modern one).

UP FEF (one of my favorites - I've decided to wait and not buy used, because i think I would run this puppy a lot).

Santa Fe F3 A-B-B set (this has to be extraordinary - I have two sets now but dream of realistic smoke and great sound from every unit, working fans, and features galore, plus extraordinary detail, etc.)

Dreyfus Hudson (how hard could this be for Lionel to make given the Vision Hudson as a starting point)?

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I am building a collection of original TMCC Geeps.  They are like living history.  The progression of TMCC technology from start to finish = Legacy.  All are unique and have their own characteristics and charm.  I would rather buy an engine new than used.  I have the remaining engines located, except for 2.  What I'm waiting for is more dough to round out my collection, which I hope to someday display in it's entirety on a wall next to my layout.  Then I'll work on getting a 2nd of my favorites, because two is always better than one.

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LIONEL EL GP-35 DUMMY

LIONEL SBD SD ROUND ROOF

LIONEL NP DD ROUND ROOF

LIONEL REA TRACTOR TRAILER TRUCK

 

ATLAS O T-MAN ERIE B/W 6747

ATLAS O EL 50’ DD (pending on price)

ATLAS O PC 50’ DD (pending on price)

 

WEAVER MILW H. Ribbed Side G5004

WEAVER MILW H. Ribbed Side G5007

WEAVER WM -CHESSIE 9 PNL HOPPERS

WEAVER C&O 9 PNL PE HOPPERS

WEAVER SCL 50’ BOX CAR

WEAVER PC   50'BOX CAR

 

MTH LIRR RS-1 (reserved)

MTH LIRR HW (2 reserved)

MTH LIRR DASHDAN SAND CARS

 

MORNING SUN BOOKS LIRR VOL.4 (reserved)

 

Dealers email your best price.

I guess I'll be the first one to say I buy the first issues. Vision features are amazing no doubt but they are not what I buy a model for and thus not worth the extra money (and potential headaches) for me. My bare minimum criteria for a scale model is reasonable scale fidelity and TMCC. Once I get those two, all else is bonus. So, if Lionel has already made an engine I really like with TMCC, that's the one going in my collection.

 

Exceptions are if the first issue of that locomotive is the Legacy / Vision issue, or if the reissue is leaps and bounds ahead of the original in detailing. Only real example of that I have seen thus far is the difference between the 1999 and 2006 Big Boys.

 

One thing I am waiting for though is for Lionel to re-release the K-Line scale Hudson tooling with Legacy. After the Vision Hudson left us scale junkies twisting in the wind, this seems to be the most plausible scenario for a proper Lionel model of J1e 5344.

Legacy OR PS3 Ann Arbor GP-35s.  I'd need exceptional detail and features because Atlas came out with the TMCC version a few years ago.

 

One feature I'd like to see, especially on diesels is the ability to customize the road number.  If the sound file has road number specific sounds, then have the ability to make it match whatever road number you pick.

I'm waiting for small, mainline steam of the turn of the century, pre-WWI era. Specifically, a generic Baldwin Ten Wheeler and a Milwaukee Road K-class 2-6-2 Prairie, preferably by MTH or Weaver. I prefer DCS over Legacy (mainly due to the SMPH speed readout and better ergonomics on the remote); if I can't have DCS I will go with Weaver because of their unequaled customer service and their acceptance of customer input in the design phase. 

Originally Posted by jojofry:
Originally Posted by Alex Malliae:
Originally Posted by TimDude:

I want a Legacy N&W #611

I SECOND THAT

ALEX

 

I second that too.. I am not gonna buy a older one.. We all know the legacy 611 is comming.. If there is issiues with it. Lionel is 40 mins away and i will get  it back the same day most of the times...

Me too, with whistle steam!

 

Doug

I am waiting to see what Williams by Bachmann does with their new line-up of GP-30's or GP-35's, want to see what roadnames they have.

 

The other one I want to see is a decent set of Reading Company passenger cars produced. Almost everybody, to include Williams, focuses on engines or freight cars with the exception of more than one caboose style.

 

The other style of passenger car not being produced that much is the RDC's, or rail diesel cars. An RDC is a self powered rail passenger car that can also have one or two trailing (unpowered) cars with it.

 

Lee F.

The first group of road names for the WBB GP30 will be New York Central, Atlantic Coast Line, Great Northern and Union Pacific.

 

Following the introduction of the very nice Peter Witt car, I'm encouraged by Bachmann's announcement of a newly tooled diesel for O gauge. I believe Bachmann stands ready to meet the demand for well detailed, scale sized equipment without the sophisticated command electronics of its competition. I hope we'll soon see more similarly featured motive power announced in the not too distant future. GE 44 and 70 ton units, anyone?

 

Bob      

Other than completing a few projects, I've decided not to buy any more trains until I decide whether or not I want to stay in 3-rail or go to 2-rail.  I can spend $800 on PS2/3 upgrade kits (if they ever become available again) or spend that money on converting my engines and rolling stock to 2-rail.

 

Right now I'm leaning towards 2-railing everything.

Like "Kanawha", I have been waiting for years for a C&O Mikado with all the gingerbread: flying pumps, brow-mounted Elesco, and I need only the coal-fired

Vanderbilt. (Didn't Lionel make the Pacific, or threaten to?  I have never seen one)

Also for years I have waited for the Little River RR's 2-4-4-2 articulateds, and for a

two truck, average size..(20-50 ton?) TWO TRUCK Heisler. (no four trucks, no five

trucks, and don't need electronic stuff...just conventional so I can run it, rather

than spend time fixing it)(all built with Williams or Marx indestructibility would be

nice)

A SP Cab Forward

 

Lionel offered a AC-12 years ago.  I would like to see someone offer one that had the sounds and features that were unique to this class of engines.

 

The sound of their air pumps were different from most other steamers.  They "wheeze" a very special sound.  This can be heard on recordings of these engines. And, get this for those of those who do not no, on the rear deck of the tender, appearing like a backup light, is a KLAXON horn!  Yes, the SP equipped these engines with this horn to warn when backing up.  If any manufacturer offers a SP AC-12 with these features, count me in.  Also, many of these engines had a smoke stack splitter.  This was to reduce the exhaust blast when operating in territory which had many tunnels and snowsheds.  This would look great when operating the smoke feature of the model.  Photos of the real engines show this split exhaust effect. And please equip the model with that small light that was mounted to the rear of the smoke stack so that the fireman could see the condition of his fire at night.

 

Steve

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