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I feel bad having to ask this, but can someone provide me a part number for the pictured screw? It’s a shoulder screw that attaches the roller bearing truck to a 6-82856 GATX unibody tank car. I stripped the head of one and need to get a new one.

I tried to find it myself on the Lionel site without any luck.

a. I searched the Lionel support site for that item number for my specific car and nothing was found, so I couldn’t view a parts diagram for it.

b. I looked at other unibody tank cars assuming (wrongly) they would all be the same. But the parts diagram for the ones I found did not seem to show this style of screw.

c. I then went to some of my other cars that have similar roller bearing trucks but all the ones I checked used self-tapping screws directly into the plastic body. My tank car has a metal thread insert in the body.

d. I even did a forum search and this question did not come up.

I tried to solve this myself, but have struck out.

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I just removed this from a latest run milk car. They will never fall out. A real bear to get out and it’s really not designed for plastic. The older cars have a more coarse threaded screw. It measures about 5.5 mm in length and is a 3mm thread,

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I remember the latest run of GLA hoppers had them. These show up on Lionel’s site.

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it’s listed as a 3mm thread by 4mm.

You might try checking your local hardware store. As far as the washer. If they don’t have a flat one that fits inside your truck. Try a lock washer as they are thinner. You should be tightening against a boss not the truck so it should work. You can always flatten out the lock washer a bit by cranking it in a vice.

If what I have will work. Hit my e mail and I can ship you the one I showed. By stripped. I’m assuming you meant the Phillips head. A lot of these screws have a JIS head. Similar to Phillips but slightly different. I’m a screwdriver junkie. Many sets. Norm C. turned me onto a set of JIS screwdrivers made by Hozan. Not overly expensive for a 4 set and they work well with trains.

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Lionel has had its parts diagrams, for modern stuff anyway, online for many, many years.

       https://www.lionelsupport.com/

Unfortunately the entire parts website was overhauled earlier this year and is still trying to recover from the surgery.  Within the first few days after the cutover most of us could find very little, even if it was already known to be in the old version of the site.  Over time since then it's been getting better but still seems to be missing a number of things.

Checking today I entered 6-82856 in the search box but nothing returns.  So presently this won't help you.

Be patient though.  Hopefully everything is being brought back online, via this new site, and soon.

Mike

Try putting a toothpick in the threaded hole and see if the screw can get a griplike that. Also try "packing" the hole with J&B weld. then redrill to fit. Hope this helps. The problem may be that the screw is harder than the seat and if it vibrated it's way out the hole is gonna be to big for the new screw also.

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Lionel parts support answered and gave me this part number and photo. It looks right so I will order a couple.

Edit: vexed by the support website. That part number does not come up on the search function or quick order, even trying different formats. I will need to call them tomorrow and talk to a human.

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@Zeke13 thank you. I thought I tried that, but you had more success. Perfect.

@Norton agreed. The Lionel response did not provide size or thread info. But now that Zeke13 found the part and description, I can go to our local True Value and pick one up.

The advantage of getting an assortment is you can try various sizes to determine what the thread size is. I have a kit that has 2, 2.5, 3, and 4mm screws with nuts and washers. That pretty much covers 95% of the screws found on our trains today.

Along with some common 4-40 and 6-32 found everywhere that sells fasteners.



Pete

How this turned out.

Unfortunately this is the second time Lionel support gave me the wrong part number in response to a query. Two different queries over a couple of years and Lionel is 0 for 2, sadly.

As the above thread shows, I gave Lionel the exact car model number and a photo of the screw and they sent me back the part number, which allowed me to identify the screw size and thread. My local hardware store did not have small metric screws I stock, but Home Depot did online, and oddly, they provided free shipping to my home. So I spent 51 cents to order the same size screw Lionel support said I needed. It showed up a few days later, but the 3mm screw was clearly too big. But it was close! So back to HD online where I ordered a 2.5mm x 5mm x 0.45thread for about 50 cents again (and free shipping).

That screw arrived today and was a perfect fit once I added a tiny flat washer I had on hand.

In conclusion, the correct screw for the original question is a 2.5mm x 5mm x 0.45 thread. Ideally washer head but a pan head and washer worked fine. And don’t rely on Lionel tech support knowing their own products as they seem stuck with the same faulty web site as the public is. But my tank car is back on the rails at least.

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