Chris I will have to take a look. Thanks for the information.
Finally wrapping up my PC BEEP/ Flyerchief upgrade. Got the wiring finished and stuffed under the shell.
I had a measure twice, cut once moment. I had the board mounted above the motors but realized that the motor driver board was too tall to fit. I reconfigured everything and wound up putting the board on it's side. Not ideal but it works.
After saying one too many times- I need to get a roll of Kapton tape, I did. Found it at Micro-Center. I don't want anything to short against the weights.
Sorry but I forgot to take pix before final assembly but trust me- everything fit- barely. Getting the wiring dressed in with enough of a service loop is challenging. MTH had the right idea with the spring contact pads on the shells for lighting.
The board has a cab light output so the engine has: number boards (from track power), and directional headlights.
Front and rear elecro-couplers and sound.
Thanks to Pete @Norton who did a FC board in a BEEP recently and provided some guidance along the way with the couplers.
I also discovered that there's a 3rd type of plug on these boards. I bought JST-ZH plugs which work for most of the inputs, but several of the plugs, for chuff, etc, are slightly smaller than the ZH. I'm not using them but to the eye they looked the same.
This is set up so that I can duplicate the lighting and speaker in other BEEP shells and put them on this chassis.
I'll post a video when I can.
Bob
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Bob, it sounds like you did a great job. I am not seeing your photographs, though.
Bob sound like a lot of work! I am glad that it turned out good and everything is working fine!
Merry Christmas to you and the family!
P.S. Also no photos, but the Image Not Found looks AMAZING!
Bob, now I see the photographs! You did a great job fitting everything in and managing the wires too.
@RSJB18 posted:Finally wrapping up my PC BEEP/ Flyerchief upgrade. Got the wiring finished and stuffed under the shell.
I had a measure twice, cut once moment. I had the board mounted above the motors but realized that the motor driver board was too tall to fit. I reconfigured everything and wound up putting the board on it's side. Not ideal but it works.
After saying one too many times- I need to get a roll of Kapton tape, I did. Found it at Micro-Center. I don't want anything to short against the weights.
Sorry but I forgot to take pix before final assembly but trust me- everything fit- barely. Getting the wiring dressed in with enough of a service loop is challenging.MTH had the right idea with the spring contact pads on the shells for lighting.
The board has a cab light output so the engine has: number boards (from track power), and directional headlights.
Front and rear elecro-couplers and sound.
Thanks to Pete @Norton who did a FC board in a BEEP recently and provided some guidance along the way with the couplers.
I also discovered that there's a 3rd type of plug on these boards. I bought JST-ZH plugs which work for most of the inputs, but several of the plugs, for chuff, etc, are slightly smaller than the ZH. I'm not using them but to the eye they looked the same.This is set up so that I can duplicate the lighting and speaker in other BEEP shells and put them on this chassis.
I'll post a video when I can.
Bob
Yep Bob I would probably Break it! LOL
Merry Christmas
Can't keep a busy bench empty for too long so after a quick clean up from the BEEP, I'm jumping back into the MTH S2 that's been languishing.....
If you remember, I was planning an ERR install but the boards wouldn't fit.
So I punted and picked up another Flyerchief board. Lionel doesn't have a S2 in Flyer so a Baldwin VO-1000 ran a close 2nd.
I fabbed a mount for the board.
Power and motors are ready to go. Need to build the lighting.
Bob
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I have a few MTH 2-10-0 decapods in various roadnames. I love the engine, a well proportioned locomotive with great detailing.
One drawback on the Shawmut and the Erie versions, was the exaggerated rear tender beam. Some MTH versions have the short deck while most have the exaggerated long deck that tends to detract from the overall all look of the engine.
I happened to be looking through some auctions of the 2-10-0 and saw a 2 rail version with the short, correct rear pilot beam. I searched the model number and discovered that a few versions of the MTH engine had the correct rear beam.
It turns out, that both tender beams were still available from MTH. The parts list showed two types, the long and short versions. I ordered a few of the shorter beams, as well as a few of the shorter electro-couplers, that would match the installation of the short beam. Here is the comparison…
The shorter beam required a shorter coupler…
The “after” view…
A much better look and more correct for my Erie and Shawmut Russians.
The parts are in the website. Only the Santa Fe rear short beam is available now. Part number: GA1140053A…
Tom
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@Krieglok posted:
The tender looks much better Tom. Any idea why MTH uses the long deck? Is it prototypical?
Bob
More time at the bench this afternoon...did some shelving re-org in my shop too. I found 6 old gallon paint cans that rattled when I shook them......don't think that's normal??????
My MTH S2 build is cruising along. I built the front and rear lights today and installed the front ones. The rear will go in soon.
Bob
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@RSJB18 posted:The tender looks much better Tom. Any idea why MTH uses the long deck? Is it prototypical?
Bob
Hi Bob.
It is a bit of a mystery as MTH produced both for various models. There doesn’t seem to be any logic to the applications other than maybe 3 rail vs 2 rail engines…
Tom
Bob and Tom,
I recall reading the long deck isn’t prototypical, MTH just screwed up. The early models had the long deck until MTH corrected the mistake.
John
@Steam Crazy posted:Bob and Tom,
I recall reading the long deck isn’t prototypical, MTH just screwed up. The early models had the long deck until MTH corrected the mistake.
John
That sounds good to me! I was lucky to find some of the later, short platforms in the parts site…
Tom
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More work on the MTH/Flyer-S2 upgrade. I had everything done....or so I thought.....rookie mistake, I reversed polarity on the lighting. I've swapped everything and tested. The rear headlight isn't working but I think I damaged the wiring making it fit into the bracket.
I'll take it out and test and repair.
Power side is good. The board sync's to the app and moved forward/reverse.
Also got the crew back into the cab.....they are none to happy with the yardmaster at the moment.......
Bob
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@RSJB18 posted:More work on the MTH/Flyer-S2 upgrade. I had everything done....or so I thought.....rookie mistake, I reversed polarity on the lighting. I've swapped everything and tested. The rear headlight isn't working but I think I damaged the wiring making it fit into the bracket.
I'll take it out and test and repair.Power side is good. The board sync's to the app and moved forward/reverse.
Also got the crew back into the cab.....they are none to happy with the yardmaster at the moment.......
Bob
Those stinking yardmasters have forgotten what it's like to be out here in the cab in the cold!! Easy to make mistake, Bob!!
@RSJB18 posted:assume this is a before and to be-after shot......
almost too pretty to weather.
Bob
Thou assumest correctly.
Haven't decided to what extent to weather the 427 just yet.
It will look quite used and worn, but still getting the job done.
The condition of my KC&G engines is intentional so as to reflect the bankrupt/reorganizing aspect of my Kansas City & Gulf theme, circa autumn of 1964. Most of the roster are still wearing their original paint schemes they left the factory with. For the 1st generation engines, that could be anywhere from 12-16 years or more, depending on the unit.
Andre
Great work guys! I know at this point in my Model RR Life I wouldn't try either wiring or weathering! But you guys make it look easy!
@RSJB18 Nice to see you working still on the stuff on your bench! You might want to slow it down as you don't want an empty bench! You need a place to hide the incoming purchase! LOL
@laming Andre Nice paint and weathering! I am sure when you get to the point where you think you have enough weathering you will know!
Keep up the wonderful work!