As usual, well done sir!

Bob, do you have the part number for the Lionchief upgrade handy?  Thanks.

John

Another job well done Bob!

Gene

Bob, the RS3 looks and runs great!    I need to back to where your started this project to see if what I have forgotten, since I wasn't filing everything away in my mind since my Weaver RS3 is a fairly new acquisition.  Then I will formulate any questions I may have. 

@Tranquil Hollow RR posted:

As usual, well done sir!

Thank you Jay.

@Steam Crazy posted:

Bob, do you have the part number for the Lionchief upgrade handy?  Thanks.

John

John- The board was from a LC starter set which is Lionchief w/bluetooth. I think these were their second generation boards The advantage is app and universal remote control. The next gen LC + /BT boards require a feedback sensor on the motor. When GRJ said it's not worth the effort, I listened.....

Bob, that’s a nice deal for all the features the board provides!  The engine runs nice and smooth; smooth acceleration and deceleration too.  Thank you for all the hints.  Yes, the flywheel hitting the cab insert, just grazing it would make the sound.

Thanks, Bob!

John

I have other projects going, but since Bob @RSJB18 presented such a nice description of his Weaver RS3 upgrade, I pulled my Weaver RS3 off the Ceiling Central RR for a look inside.  Let me say that I bought this engine from a Forum member a few months ago.  It doesn't need the LC+ upgrade because the previous owner upgraded it with ERR.  However, as I posted when I got it that it doesn't have any slow speed control.  Opening it up, the upgrade looks very nicely done and I see the motors are wired in parallel.  So first off, I need to wire it in series to see if it responds more to my liking.  I wonder if there will be room for adding a cab insert like Bob did without having to move the circuit boards.  I do dislike looking in a cab window and seeing a motor and flywheel instead of a crew member.  Here is what I have.

It's a very nice looking engine and was offered at a great price.

I can see it has been run quite a lot looking at the pickup rollers.

I think the ERR upgrade was done pretty neatly.

Here is the cab end where the cab insert would go.  If I have to move the circuit boards, there isn't much room on the other end before the boards would hit the other motor.

I'm not that familiar with ERR.  I see it has a Cruise Commander version 4.5.  I know ERR uses add on boards, but at this point I don't know what these two boards are.

Thank you for taking a look see!

Whoa Mark, that looks scary. That’s a job for Dr. Bob.

@Tranquil Hollow RR posted:

Whoa Mark, that looks scary. That’s a job for Dr. Bob.

😄😄  Funny, there was a Dr. Bob nearby who ran a weight loss clinic.  😄😄  The Dr. Bob you are referring to will chime in at some point here.  

OK OK OK.......

I'd start with getting the cab interior and see how it fits. If the electronics are solid, I'd hate to see you mess with them.

Better to cut up a $10  piece of plastic then blown up a $200 set of boards.

I'll send you the part numbers.

😁

Thank you, Bob!  I really appreciate the part numbers you sent me.  That can be half the battle.  I totally agree about cutting up plastic rather than risking busting up boards.  😃  Yes, it should run nicely once I rewire the motors.  I’ll take all precautions against damaging the boards doing that.  Not a big deal.  Thank you!!

@RSJB18 posted:

OK OK OK.......

I'd start with getting the cab interior and see how it fits. If the electronics are solid, I'd hate to see you mess with them.

Better to cut up a $10  piece of plastic then blown up a $200 set of boards.

I'll send you the part numbers.

😁

I knew Dr. Bob would arrive to save the patient; and, he’s sending a prescription.

@Mark Boyce posted:

Thank you, Bob!  I really appreciate the part numbers you sent me.  That can be half the battle.  I totally agree about cutting up plastic rather than risking busting up boards.  😃  Yes, it should run nicely once I rewire the motors.  I’ll take all precautions against damaging the boards doing that.  Not a big deal.  Thank you!!

Mark- I'm far from a ERR expert but the Cruise Commander will allow for 32 or 100 speed steps. You can download the instructions from 3rd rail/ ERR and check the programming.
Gunner John would be the best resource for answers.

Bob

@RSJB18 posted:

Mark- I'm far from a ERR expert but the Cruise Commander will allow for 32 or 100 speed steps. You can download the instructions from 3rd rail/ ERR and check the programming.
Gunner John would be the best resource for answers.

Bob

The programming steps are all in the installation manual. Speed steps, large/small motor, cruise on/off, etc.

Pete

Bob, Pete, thank you very much!!  I will download the instructions and program once I rewire the motors.  Yes, John is such a great fount of knowledge on this subject!  Thank you.

@Mark Boyce posted:

Bob, Pete, thank you very much!!  I will download the instructions and program once I rewire the motors.  Yes, John is such a great fount of knowledge on this subject!  Thank you.

Mark- my (our) point is that you shouldn't need to re-wire the motors. The board programming should solve the speed control issues. I would start by doing a full reset of the boards, and then program according to the instructions.

Bob

@RSJB18 posted:

Mark- my (our) point is that you shouldn't need to re-wire the motors. The board programming should solve the speed control issues. I would start by doing a full reset of the boards, and then program according to the instructions.

Bob

Ohhhh!  Now I see!    🤦‍♂️  Thank you both, Bob and Pete!!  I will report back after doing the full reset and programming!  

@RSJB18 posted:

Mark- I'm far from a ERR expert but the Cruise Commander will allow for 32 or 100 speed steps. You can download the instructions from 3rd rail/ ERR and check the programming.
Gunner John would be the best resource for answers.

Bob

Correct default is 32, need to be programmed on engine set up.

Craig

PennCentralShops

@ThatGuy posted:

Correct default is 32, need to be programmed on engine set up.

Craig

PennCentralShops

Thank you too, Craig!  So you can teach an old dog new tricks!  It just takes a bit of clarification. 😃