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Just a question... I put my new Lionel 0-4-0 on the head end of my Polar Express today and noticed the cars looked a little small compared to it. So I put it back to back with the PE Bershire and noticed the Berk cab is quite a bit shorter than the Shifter cab. Also looks like the drivers on both engines are the same diameter. Now I'm pretty sure that full size switchers are actually smaller than road engines, I'm also guessing that the shifter is more accurately scaled than the PR locomotive. Assuming the 0-4-0 is in fact 1:48 scale, what is the actual scale of the Polar Express train? I'm not complaining about the (apparent) difference in scale, just curious...

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since the Polar Express is a fictional train, it would be difficult to judge the scale of a model, but that being said, a Berkshire type locomotive (the type depicted in the movie) will usually have drivers in the 68"- 72" range, while small switchers sport wheels as small as 30"-35" (B&O).

 

i would guess the Lionel model is O27 sized which can be as small as 3/16" scale (1:64).

Originally Posted by glockr:

Just a question... I put my new Lionel 0-4-0 on the head end of my Polar Express today and noticed the cars looked a little small compared to it. So I put it back to back with the PE Bershire and noticed the Berk cab is quite a bit shorter than the Shifter cab. Also looks like the drivers on both engines are the same diameter. Now I'm pretty sure that full size switchers are actually smaller than road engines, I'm also guessing that the shifter is more accurately scaled than the PR locomotive. Assuming the 0-4-0 is in fact 1:48 scale, what is the actual scale of the Polar Express train? I'm not complaining about the (apparent) difference in scale, just curious...

I'm assuming you've got the train set Polar Express.  The locomotive and cars are not true 1/4" scale, but are what's best referred to as "traditional size."

 

Lionel was, and still is the master of "selective compression," (or "selective expansion" in the case of the 44 tonner...)in shrinking down dimensions so the locomotives and cars still look "right" on the very sharp O27, O31 and O36 curves. 

 

This selective compression is not consistent for height, width, length and may vary from product to product, so there is no way to determine the actual "scale" of these products.  It seems to be mostly based on visual appeal by the Lionel design engineers.

 

Rusty

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