What engine would you like to see manufacturers rebuild in the next catalog? I think for me it would be MTH's UP Coal Turbine and MTH's Mikado (preferably ATSF).
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Union Pacific Big Boy.
At least that is what they should remake, IF they want to (Re)make Money.
As much as people Gripe, Whine and Complain, every time a new model is produced, THEY SELL, and THAT is what the Mfgrs. are in business for.
Excuse me, while I go put on my Favorite Nomex suit.
Doug
Lionel box cab electric. For as cheap as it was, it was actually fairly realistic. Do a modern version with actual exterior detailing and without the "Lionel Lines" monicker, add sound and whatever else, make it a better puller. The postwar versions actually have a decent following, so a modern version that puts the same kind of detailing, etc. into it that's expected with everything else might sell (or not, but you never know)
Absolutely, posititively NONE! They have been redoing, and their competitors, such
as the original Williams, redid, the same few tired 1940's prototypes over and over
and over and over....ad infinitum, and while there was a breather when MTH came on
the scene, that has ended and...it is more of the same. MAKE SOME NEW PROTOTYPES! I do not and will not buy any of that crap.
I'm relatively new to O-scale so catching up on some I missed but want. I'll scratch FEF 844 off of the list for obvious reasons.
Lionel Legacy Steam:
J1a PRR
K4 PRR
Not yet done in Legacy:
L-3a NYC
Niagara NYC
I'd like to see a Fairbanks Morse(FM) Trainmaster diesel for the northeast railroads that used to run them, like the CNJ, and Reading.
Lee Fritz
A Legacy New Haven F3 and/or FL9 in the McGinnis scheme.
As for redos, it would be the Alco PA with Legacy in the McGinnis scheme and the Virginian and Lackawanna FM's with Legacy. I know these were produced with TMCC but that was some time ago.
Just a wish list.
Mike
MTH Millwaukee boxcabs in the Railking Line instead of the Premier Line.
Bill T.
How about NONE. Time for some new products, something never done before would be nice, and leave the re-releases on the shelf for awhile.
Tim,
Some items I would be interested in a rerun with the latest goodies:
Lionel with Legacy
Niagara
T1
Allegheny
F3's
S2
Not necessarily in that order.
Thanks for asking.
Hills Hobbies, in the Chicago area, now closed (dunno if the fact they actually used to
carry some O scale stuff had anything to do with that, and they were protested against
by all the shops only carrying HO and N...it was one of three I used to visit), had a wall full of different models of the NYC Hudson.....that is kind of the problem in 3 rail
today...how many variations of the same prototype is wanted....none here, but others
apparently want a lot and buy them. If we could just get them to stop doing that! I
don't want 99 variations of the same prototype...
I am hoping MTH will rerun the PRR M1B and the L1 Decapod with both the long and short tenders. Also, I would like to see the LIRR G5 #28 with the air tank on the pilot that was originally cataloged before they changed it to #39 with the tank on the side.
I would like to see another run of the SP GS4's with whistle steam and MTH with GP60M's
The Lionel M7 is a very good candidate. The O Gauge version is a poor representation and, try as you may, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. The fact that these "engines" (for such they are under FRA regulations), serve America's largest and most populous city should suggest a market large enough to warrant a redux. Compare the 1:1 to the 1:48:
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None, for a while. (OK, Lionel's Niagara, mainly because the original was such a mess, mechanically and, in my case, electronically).
New steamers. L&N 2-8-4. For starters. Small light Pacifics, like the S&A excursion #750.
And, Lionel, how about the NYC S-3 electric, to complete "the set" - you did beautiful jobs on the S-1 and S-2 electrics, and mine need the S-3 for company. (This would fall between a re-do and a new item.)
New steamers.
MTH:
Premier NYC Mohawks. I missed them the first time around and they don't pop-up too often on the secondary market.
LIRR G5
Lionel:
LIRR C-420
MTH:
Premier NYC Mohawks. I missed them the first time around and they don't pop-up too often on the secondary market.
You might contact Berwyn's Toys & Trains, in Berwyn, Il (708) 484-4384. They had an MTH L4 Mohawk on the shelf, when I was there last Saturday (Sept. 12).
Lets hear it for WBB re-doing the F-7's so they don't look so odd.
Lionel E7 AA PRR
3rd Rail Fp7 AA PRR
Atlas O Mp15 Conrail
MTH Scale TM PRR
After emailing Lionel over the past several years about redoing the J3a hudson from the 50th anniversary set, they offer the streamlined ESE J3a hudson.... so close.
This hudson is far more " Vision line worthy" and IMO would have easily outsold the "100 year old" 700e tooling.
Agreeing with others, the Niagara needs a legacy "rehash" with the mechanical/ reliability and paint problems addressed.
These two have only been done once, 14 years ago, and would benefit greatly with four chuffs, modern smoke and whistle steam.
Since then there has been several runs of berks, mohawks, bigboys, and much of Lionel other TMCC steamers have been rehashed as well.
Would like to see a reproduction of Lionel's 1946 221 Dreyfuss Steam Engine. Done the same way as it was released but with a smoke generator and a whistle in the tender, plus a Pullman and a observation cars.
This would make a great entry level set and a must have for the pre/post war folks.
What engine would you like to see manufacturers rebuild in the next catalog? I think for me it would be MTH's UP Coal Turbine and MTH's Mikado (preferably ATSF).
MTH did a reissue of the coal turbine a couple years ago. Can't remember if it was PS2 or PS3 though. I have seen one a few times on that auction site.
These....
In conventional with mechanical E-units too!
GP50, GP40X, SD45-2, F45, B23-7, B30-7, B36-7.
My bad....None of these have been made and it's time.
The EMD SD40-2 and GMDD SD40-2W locomotive could be made right this time from new body molds that will be smaller sections that are railroad specific.
The frame and trucks would be made for 3-rail and 2-rail operations.
Andrew
Good call RickO - I would be up for a Legacy J3a Hudson, with those drivers anyways. You have to think it will be back around at some point.
From 2007 the Atlas 0-6-0 steam Locomotive. IMO not nearly enough of these made. I run my CB&Q all the time.
Thqnk you.
MTH should do 614 in railking line.
As much as I am against most redos (since I have as many as I need for the moment), I agree with Rick in wanting to see the J3A and Niagara in Legacy with whistle steam.
As much as I love my Vision 700E, the J3A adds a lot more variety and can be made in multiple versions like the recent Empire State.
It makes me wonder if Lionel will redo the Dreyfuss, too...
Or for that matter, update and improve the L3A Mohawk tooling! That's one of my favorite designs from the Kughn era at Lionel.
Actually, TBH, a lot of Kughn era tooling would be nice to see updated in Legacy. Those who want an accurate model of the #4501 probably would like to see Lionel's '92 tooling back with improved detailing. Or maybe the T-1's.
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MTH Premier Delaware & Hudson GP38-2 in the blue & gray scheme pictured below. The last time MTH offered this paint scheme, it was the early PS2.0 version with the original (not-so-highly-detailed) tooling and silver-painted trucks (not prototypical). I would be in for a pair of powered units if MTH offers it with PS3.0 and gray trucks!
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At least 2 engines that I missed out on their initial release but got them 2nd time around were MTH PRR E44 and the BB1 Rats. Would like to grab the P5 boxcab when redone.
I'm waiting for MTH to re-do the 2-rail UP Heritages in PS3. Still need the Western Pacific and Southern Pacific SD70ACEs
The Lionel M7 is a very good candidate. The O Gauge version is a poor representation and, try as you may, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. The fact that these "engines" (for such they are under FRA regulations), serve America's largest and most populous city should suggest a market large enough to warrant a redux. Compare the 1:1 to the 1:48:
There has been a flawed redo of this M7 set with only three cars that is in stock at retailers now. The prototype runs in car pairs so the new set looks really silly with a blunt end. I do like these sets and have the M7 MetroNorth cars as well as the LIRR M7 set.
I would love love to see a slight remold of this with new roofs to make the ConnDOT/MetroNorth M8 cars that run on the New Haven lines. The M8s have the ability to run off the third rail as well as overhead wire.
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Perhaps 10 or 12 years ago, MTH made a model of a Fairbanks Morse H10-44 switcher. Didn't have DCS, at the time, but I think it's about time to dust off those dies and tooling and re-do that engine with modern electronics. My money would be on a Milwaukee Road H10-44 in the Hiawatha paint scheme with a gray top, a maroon separating line and orange on the bottom. Last time they actually did make that engine, they did it in the "economy" paint job with a simple black top and and orange lower section.
Other RR's had these engines, as well, and now the actual sound can be recorded from a recently restored and operating prototype. No new tooling would be required, although over the years, the old tooling for this engine could be brought up to date. Instead of Premier, this engine could be sold as "RailKing Scale".
Paul Fischer
Dear Silver Lake,
I've got several sets, too, have the ERR guts ready to install and am dreaming up a SIRT color scheme. Methinks and adaptation of the NY Yankees scheme could be "very nice"with some yellow highlights and a hint of grey for the bonnet. However, the trucks are disgusting, the fact that Lionel felt compelled to hold 'em together with rubber bands speaks volumes. A slightly more realistic length would be nice, too.
After emailing Lionel over the past several years about redoing the J3a hudson from the 50th anniversary set, they offer the streamlined ESE J3a hudson.... so close.
This hudson is far more " Vision line worthy" and IMO would have easily outsold the "100 year old" 700e tooling.
I totally agree. This was a far nicer Hudson model than the 700E but needed to have the gap between the engine and tender shortened and the Legacy/Vision features added.
In the late 1980s, Williams made a streamlined K4 in brass. This was not the Loewy version, but 4 that were designed and built in the Altoona shops in 1940. I think it was much more attractive than the Loewy engine. They pulled 4 of the PRR "Fleet" trains, and a few times, the Broadway Limited.