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Lionel box cab electric. For as cheap as it was, it was actually fairly realistic. Do a modern version with actual exterior detailing and without the "Lionel Lines" monicker, add sound and whatever else, make it a better puller. The postwar versions actually have a decent following, so a modern version that puts the same kind of detailing, etc. into it that's expected with everything else might sell (or not, but you never know)

Absolutely, posititively NONE!  They have been redoing, and their competitors, such

as the original Williams, redid, the same few tired 1940's prototypes over and over

and over and over....ad infinitum, and while there was a breather when MTH came on

the scene, that has ended and...it is more of the same.  MAKE SOME NEW PROTOTYPES!  I do not and will not buy any of that crap.

Hills Hobbies, in the Chicago area, now closed (dunno if the fact they actually used to

carry some O scale stuff had anything to do with that, and they were protested against

by all the shops only carrying HO and N...it was one of three I used to visit), had a wall full of different models of the NYC Hudson.....that is kind of the problem in 3 rail

today...how many variations of the same prototype is wanted....none here, but others

apparently want a lot and buy them.  If we could just get them to stop doing that!  I

don't want 99 variations of the same prototype... 

The Lionel M7 is a very good candidate.  The O Gauge version is a poor representation and, try as you may, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.  The fact that these "engines" (for such they are under FRA regulations), serve America's largest and most populous city should suggest a market large enough to warrant a redux.  Compare the 1:1 to the 1:48:

 

 

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None, for a while. (OK, Lionel's Niagara, mainly because the original was such a mess, mechanically and, in my case, electronically).

 

New steamers. L&N 2-8-4. For starters. Small light Pacifics, like the S&A excursion #750.

 

And, Lionel, how about the NYC S-3 electric, to complete "the set" - you did beautiful jobs on the S-1 and S-2 electrics, and mine need the S-3 for company. (This would fall between a re-do and a new item.)

 

New steamers. 

After emailing Lionel over the past several years about redoing the J3a hudson from the 50th anniversary set, they offer the streamlined ESE J3a hudson.... so close.

 

 This hudson is far more " Vision line worthy" and IMO would have easily outsold the "100 year old" 700e tooling.

 

 

Agreeing with others, the Niagara needs a legacy "rehash" with the  mechanical/ reliability and paint problems addressed.

 

 

These  two have only been done once, 14 years ago, and would benefit greatly with four chuffs, modern smoke and whistle steam.

 

Since then there has been several runs of berks, mohawks, bigboys, and much of Lionel other TMCC steamers have been rehashed as well.

 

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Originally Posted by Tim Lewis:

What engine would you like to see manufacturers rebuild in the next catalog? I think for me it would be MTH's UP Coal Turbine and MTH's Mikado (preferably ATSF).

MTH did a reissue of the coal turbine a couple years ago. Can't remember if it was PS2 or PS3 though. I have seen one a few times on that auction site.

As much as I am against most redos (since I have as many as I need for the moment), I agree with Rick in wanting to see the J3A and Niagara in Legacy with whistle steam.

 

As much as I love my Vision 700E, the J3A adds a lot more variety and can be made in multiple versions like the recent Empire State.

 

It makes me wonder if Lionel will redo the Dreyfuss, too...

 

Or for that matter, update and improve the L3A Mohawk tooling! That's one of my favorite designs from the Kughn era at Lionel.

 

 

Actually, TBH, a lot of Kughn era tooling would be nice to see updated in Legacy. Those who want an accurate model of the #4501 probably would like to see Lionel's '92 tooling back with improved detailing. Or maybe the T-1's.

 

 

 

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MTH Premier Delaware & Hudson GP38-2 in the blue & gray scheme pictured below.  The last time MTH offered this paint scheme, it was the early PS2.0 version with the original (not-so-highly-detailed) tooling and silver-painted trucks (not prototypical).  I would be in for a pair of powered units if MTH offers it with PS3.0 and gray trucks!

 

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Originally Posted by Rapid Transit Holmes:

The Lionel M7 is a very good candidate.  The O Gauge version is a poor representation and, try as you may, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.  The fact that these "engines" (for such they are under FRA regulations), serve America's largest and most populous city should suggest a market large enough to warrant a redux.  Compare the 1:1 to the 1:48:

 

 

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There has been a flawed redo of this M7 set with only three cars that is in stock at retailers now.  The prototype runs in car pairs so the new set looks really silly with a blunt end. I do like these sets and have the M7 MetroNorth cars as well as the LIRR M7 set. 

 

I would love love to see a slight remold of this with new roofs to make the ConnDOT/MetroNorth M8 cars that run on the New Haven lines. The M8s have the ability to run off the third rail as well as overhead wire. 

 

 

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Perhaps 10 or 12 years ago, MTH made a model of a Fairbanks Morse H10-44 switcher.  Didn't have DCS, at the time, but I think it's about time to dust off those dies and tooling and re-do that engine with modern electronics.  My money would be on a Milwaukee Road H10-44 in the Hiawatha paint scheme with a gray top, a maroon separating line and orange on the bottom.  Last time they actually did make that engine, they did it in the "economy" paint job with a simple black top and and orange lower section. 

 

Other RR's had these engines, as well, and now the actual sound can be recorded from a recently restored and operating prototype.  No new tooling would be required, although over the years, the old tooling for this engine could be brought up to date.  Instead of Premier, this engine could be sold as "RailKing Scale".

 

Paul Fischer

Dear Silver Lake,

 

I've got several sets, too, have the ERR guts ready to install and am dreaming up a SIRT color scheme.  Methinks and adaptation of the NY Yankees scheme could be "very nice"with some yellow highlights and a hint of grey for the bonnet.  However, the trucks are disgusting, the fact that Lionel felt compelled to hold 'em together with rubber bands speaks volumes.  A slightly more realistic length would be nice, too.

After emailing Lionel over the past several years about redoing the J3a hudson from the 50th anniversary set, they offer the streamlined ESE J3a hudson.... so close.

 

This hudson is far more " Vision line worthy" and IMO would have easily outsold the "100 year old" 700e tooling.

 

I totally agree. This was a far nicer Hudson model than the 700E but needed to have the gap between the engine and tender shortened and the Legacy/Vision features added.

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