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Bumble Bee!!!!bee

Now before you think I'm just being smart..........

I went to work for a buddy that had a toy and hobby shop. Needless to say I knew more about hobbies than toys. The transformer toys were super hot at the time......and it took me a while before I realized calls asking if we had 'transformers' were about the toys and not the units we stocked in the hobby dept.  It always stuck with me when I hear 'transformer'......

I do have 2 25+ year old MRC packs that always work and have the power needed.....

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I have two MRC Duals (one in use and one as a backup).  With the two big handles and the two sets of gauges, I think its the most bang for the buck.  I have an old MTH 750 watt transformer for the turntable yards (layout is set up in blocks), but with the layout rebuild and the addition of Legacy, I will pull the MTH transformer off the layout.

Jim

Lionel KW!! Efficiently sized, and so many fixed voltage options that blow away most of the modern competition. It also feels really nice while controlling speed, and probably close to what an early trolley control stand would've looked like( no frills)! I do wish however that it had a "Pilot light" like a ZW, but the overload indicator suffices plenty. And also, a KW can be had for Half that of a ZW (I paid only $35 for mine!), so the versatility and value cannot be beat!

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Bumble Bee!!!!bee

Now before you think I'm just being smart..........

I went to work for a buddy that had a toy and hobby shop. Needless to say I knew more about hobbies than toys. The transformer toys were super hot at the time......and it took me a while before I realized calls asking if we had 'transformers' were about the toys and not the units we stocked in the hobby dept.  It always stuck with me when I hear 'transformer'......

I do have 2 25+ year old MRC packs that always work and have the power needed.....

I was going to say "Optimus Prime," but you beat me to the punch....  I'm one of the generation responsible for those toys - got O.P. on my 5th birthday!   Was actually sick & had/got to stay home from school all day; Mom gave him to me early - thought it was way cool, even though it hindsight it was probably just to distract me/shut me up.... 

As for trains, I've been happy with the Z4000 I got last year, though other than that I've only had the CW-80 that came with my streamlined PE set.  Can't remember much about the ones back in my HO days growing up. 

The ZW for running MU War Bonnets with five or six motors.

 The KW for nostalgia --1st "big un" mine before my birth, but dead, & gone. An X set's unit, and was an "oops". It wasn't built anything like production KW's, except outer looks, pre-war Z type gearing inside for the right sides handle, reverse operation of right handle. Away from you with both was more throttle, pull back on both for off. I still throw the new KW's right throttle the wrong way out of childhood habit, so the right handle is for lighting now

LW for looks, small size with good power, and  function of the "night light" dial

It's very nice to be able to see the controls real well when running in the dark

MAX

The Max and a Z4000

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If this is a 'sit around the campfire and chit chat' question you're going to get chit chat answers.   If you are looking to purchase a transformer, perhaps you could share what you are looking for.  For instance, if you have MTH locomotives you may need a Z4000 to set the various programs.  John in Lansing, ILL

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If I were running only Postwar - The ZW would be the choice. Hands down.

For modern stuff, I lean to the ZW-L. The reason is that I run Legacy and conventional equipment and it has four powermasters built in to allow remote control of the conventional loops via. the Legacy remote.

No need for external powermasters, circuit breakers, TVS, etc.

 

My favorite transformer is MTH Z-4000 (2 transformers for powering layout, 1 for powering powered accessories). I own 3 of them! Very reliable! I also own 2 MTH Z-750 transformers for powering my Atlas "O" switches. I also have a MRC 270 Dual Control transformer. I use that transformer to power the building lights on my layout.............................rogerw.

I like MTH Transformers. Well built, easy to use. I do not have a Z4000 (never felt like I really needed one) but we use them on our club layout. At home, I've got a collection of Z-1000s (some going on 15 years old and still tickin') and a Z-500. They all range in age from about 15 years to 2 years old. Only problem I've had is with the controllers leaking voltage at off position. That seems to have been an issue on a few newer controllers.

My favorite is a KW-like the handles and buttons and has the constant voltage posts. I use the 6 volt post for the green "On" light.  The Z has the power and I run 3 trains of it with a 4 control for lights, signals etc. The ZW is too big to sit on my counter and not comfortable with the control handles.  I have spares-a ZW, KW, and an LW which is a nice unit. Then a 1033 runs my trolley.  My Z and KW side by side take up as much room as  a ZW.   Always on the look out for a good transformer  at a good price.

For me, it's the Lionel 1033.

Reasons: Durable, affordable, reliable and repairable - need be.

Operationally, the dual voltage settings are a huge plus.Obviously the A-U for postwar and MPC locos.

With the B-U setting of 0-11 volts to the track, I can run the early LTI vintage starter locos as well as the K-Line locos like the MP-15, S-2 and Alco FA without the jackrabbit starts... and run them slowly to boot. I have a conversion box so I switch to DC current from the same transformer when needed.

I don't do digital control and use a variety of off-board sounds, so the 1033 is perfect for my needs.

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