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So today I was on a Zoom call for a project kickoff meeting. The meeting starts of course with introductions. As each person talks they are displayed on the Zoom call.

One guy starts introducing himself, n a very professional manner, sitting at a home desk. Well behind him was a huge wall of O gauge trains! 

He was kind of ancillary to the project but I kept pelting him with questions so he had to talk and I could check out his collection. 😄

I work from my basement so that I don’t disturb everyone else in the family. My “desk” consists of my laptop on my train work bench. 

Just wondering how many of us, who still work, do so at the train table. 5ABE107E-6066-4E66-9A5D-61CBCA3A47CE

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I moved near the end of the school year into my new home office (I'm an elementary teacher). The first day of it my students commented on the lanterns behind me. If we teach from home this year, there will be a shelving unit full of prewar trains behind me. 

 

Photos will come when I'm done setting up in here (several improvements are already being made). 

 

I worked from home part time for a couple years before retiring.  At first I set the laptop on the dining room table, but missed my larger display on the desk in my cubicle at the office.  A display was too bulky to keep moving around each day, so I moved to the basement to a fold up table.  It was convenient to set it in the family room actually right outside the door to the train room.  If we had used Zoom or another video conference application, the others would have seen right into the train room or up to the shelf of my Ceiling Central Railroad.  The folks at my office in Gibsonia Pennsylvania knew I had trains because I had an old K-Line PRR engine and a couple cars on top of the shelf in my cubicle.  By that time I was working with people from across the country.  My supervisor who lives in Texas knew I liked trains and had asked my advice on buying his son a train.

That's all history now.  I work from home on our own work; when I feel like it.  

I find that working from home has given me less time as opposed to more time.  I work longer hours with less productivity as I am remote from my team who are all also remote from the office.  Microsoft Teams is the work of the devil as far as I'm concerned now.

In all seriousness, I have a great home office and great tools.  The office tried to open back in early June and 10% of our staff got COVID.  We had a good reopening plan too.  Back at home again until sometime in August. 

However, time for trains is not in the mix.  I'm lucky if I can get 15 minutes a day playing my drums which is a wholly different kind of brain therapy.

Doesn't mean I'm not totally excited to receive a true P70Fbr brass coach that Ed Rappe offered to me since it was out of his era! 

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@Phil55 posted:

I'm retired so I don't work from home or anywhere else but I will say this: At some point all the virtual crap's gotta stop. Enough is enough! Get on with life! No new normal for me! If I offend someone ,I'm sorry but this has to stop! I suspect it will sometime around the first week of November.

Nope.  World is changing.  Companies discovered they can function without the expansive expense of commercial real estate ownership or leases.  Employees discovered they don't have to live near work opportunities.  Working from home will be ubiquitous.  Good for the environment, too.  Bad for oil refiners, mass transit and restauranteurs.  Fortunate for you to be retired so you don't have to adapt.

What, me worry? 

I have worked in a home office for many years in different cities and jobs, including recent years in my home office for OGR. I will, hopefully, be relocating to a new home office in just a few weeks (in a new home). In my current situation, my office is in a spare bedroom and my train layout(s) are in the basement. In my upcoming new situation, the office and layout(s) will be co-located in a finished basement. . . once my contractor finishes it.

Like with anything else, there are advantages and disadvantages to working at home. Some people can do it successfully, and some people simply cannot. But don't ever fool yourself into thinking that you will have shorter or fewer work hours if you work at home. If you are doing what you are supposed to be doing, nothing could be further from the truth.

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Generally, the Covid crisis has resulted in me having more time for athletic walks and trains, both of which are good therapy for me. I work more frome home, and less at my office, substantially reducing my commuting time. Instead of commuting 5 days a week, now I  only commute 2 or 3 days per week, from home to office and back.

I have previously mentioned what I am about to say on another Forum thread. At this time in my life ("Now I think of my life as vintage wine in fine old kegs . . ."), my enjoyment of our hobby correlates with my productivity in my profession. That is true for purchasing trains, running them, and working on, or tinkering with, the layout.

Arnold

I retired 14 months ago but, the last four years I worked I would typically work from home at least two days each week - generally Monday and Friday.  I converted my oldest sons former bedroom into an office so I had a quiet space in which to work.  When I’d go into the office, I’d normally be there no later than 6AM and would work till 4PM so I could try to beat some of the traffic.  When I worked from home, I’d generally be upstairs in my office at 6AM as well, the only difference being I didn’t have to crawl out of bed at 4AM to do it - a HUGE plus!  And I generally worked till between 5:30 and 6PM as I wasn’t worrying about traffic.

For two of my last four years, the company - in their infinite wisdom - sent me a 27 year old Dutch MBA for a boss who was 100% certain he knew more about logistics than I did after having worked in the industry for over 40 years.  Suffice to say there were days I felt like my head would explode and, if I was fortunate to be working from home on those days, I’d hang up from a call with boy wonder and immediately head to the basement and run trains for about 20 minutes till I’d regained my sanity.

Working from home has both advantages and disadvantages and, in my opinion, requires more discipline than going into an office every day.

Curt

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I prefer a “live” background instead of a virtual one for our weekly staff meetings:  needless to say, I spent the majority of time from the first session describing everything... and nobody seemed to mind  

If I had that room, equipped as yours is, I would park a chair aimed right at the corner so I could get the full view, then not get up for a loong time! Gorgeous walls!

I have been retired for five years.   I was at my last job for 37 years.  When I started the communication between offices was pretty limited but evolved over time to conference phones then documents and video.   These advances were touted as revolutionary but my experience is that 10 to 15 minutes of every meeting would be consumed by the technology.  "Joe are you there?"  "I think we lost Roger."  "I can't see what you're seeing."  Also travel between sites did not decrease - which is good because I got to see a bunch of places I couldn't afford to go to on my own.

From what I have seen on tv recently these technology issues are still there - we haven't gotten to seamless yet.  It is interesting to see what each person has in the background.  You see a lot of bookcases.

My home office was not used to work remotely but to put in more hours after working 10 hours in the office.

As I sit here I am surrounded by trains.  My layout is behind me so it would show in a video call.  However I don't have a camera or microphone on my desktop PC.  I have a section of shelf layout on the wall behind my monitor so I can run engines and short trains back and forth with my CAB 1.

I always liked the Pee Wee Herman approach.  He had a video phone booth with multiple backdrops he could pull down like a shade.  He could be talking from the North Pole or a mountain top.  I know you can do this electronically now but that looses some of the charm.

It’s a useful component in the mix but it has serious disadvantages.

 

some years ago, the insurance house Lloyd’s of London became involved in a major crisis. Their essential business model consisted of underwriting potential losses by the formation of “Syndicates” of “Names” (essentially, members without limit of liability) who offered their personal assets as guarantees. 

What developed was a two-tier system, in which those regularly working in the building developed much better general knowledge of the nature and magnitude of the risks they were underwriting, then those not regularly present and in some cases, not regularly involved in underwriting at all. 

This led to a serious erosion of the quality of decision making in some cases, and Names being placed under severe strain or bankruptcy as events unfolded. Lloyd’s eventually changed the system to prevent this happening in future. 

 

It’s also a hopelessly ineffective means of training staff, and not much of a system for managing the more-or-less productive staff with few real prospects which any business necessarily contains - people who do enough to get through the day, or just need supervision because they don’t have enough motivation or aren’t sufficiently organised on their own. 

My elder son’s company has just let someone go, like that. He was ok in the office, with a team around him to set the pace, and not let anything slip too far - but WFH, he simply didn’t justify the effort of getting work out of him. His duties have been split between two or three contractors as required, and he was let go. 

Nope.  World is changing.  Companies discovered they can function without the expansive expense of commercial real estate ownership or leases.  Employees discovered they don't have to live near work opportunities.  Working from home will be ubiquitous.  Good for the environment, too.  Bad for oil refiners, mass transit and restauranteurs.  Fortunate for you to be retired so you don't have to adapt.

What, me worry? 

Friday's Wall Street Journal had an interesting article on the subject:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/c...fter-all-11595603397

George

3A70381F-FF2B-420D-9683-2A9458075BE0Don’t think I could ever sully my basement with work, just wouldn’t be right. I also have some old sci-fi movie poster reprints, and I am sure they would be deemed inappropriate, so best not to risk it.

I worked from home in my previous position, so I have a large desk upstairs that I was using. This time, since my sons needed the home PC for school, I set up at a second desk in our dining/great room area. I move to the dining room table for video calls, as the desk is a bit cramped. I have a large display case behind me, that has an assortment of trains, cars and other stuff in it. Can’t see it in this pic, but I actually have gotten more comments about the old cuckoo clock next to it. 

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As a college professor, I switched to remote teaching in March. On the wall of my home office behind me, I have a display cabinet of HO trains that I have purchased in 20+ countries. Below that, on a bookshelf pulled away from the wall is a loop of superstreets track with several Lionel accessories. Several students have noted that they or their grandparents have the same accessories. Also one student, who has been repatriated to his home country, noted proudly that I had a train from his country in the cabinet.

I am also a trustee of a prep school. At our last Board Meeting one of the female board members asked about my trains ending the conversation saying that with she wishes he husband would not just hoard his in the basement!

Lad

@GG1 4877 posted:

I find that working from home has given me less time as opposed to more time.  I work longer hours with less productivity as I am remote from my team who are all also remote from the office.  Microsoft Teams is the work of the devil as far as I'm concerned now.

In all seriousness, I have a great home office and great tools.  The office tried to open back in early June and 10% of our staff got COVID.  We had a good reopening plan too.  Back at home again until sometime in August. 

However, time for trains is not in the mix.  I'm lucky if I can get 15 minutes a day playing my drums which is a wholly different kind of brain therapy.

Doesn't mean I'm not totally excited to receive a true P70Fbr brass coach that Ed Rappe offered to me since it was out of his era! 

100% agree with your first paragraph, Jonathan.

After the initial changes to remote working, I thought that I would have more time for myself and family without the 3 hours of daily commuting (1.5 hours each way).  BTW, I didn't mind the commute because I got to ride trains to and from work so it was therapeutic.  Be that as it may, the 3 hours of family/personal time that I got back have disappeared and have been consumed by a workday that has expanded from 8 hours.  It's like an electronic leash that cannot be unplugged and work conversations and Zoom meetings very easily go past 7pm.  OGR member Quarter Gauger 48 and I talk offline every now and then, and like I tell him, my absence from the OGR forum the past few months has mostly because I have no time.  I used to come here to relax and de-stress, but now at the end of the day (or night), the little time that I have, I'm so tired and beat that all I want to do is to watch sports videos (I'm getting back into road racing - Formula 1 and Sports Cars - that I followed intently late 80's early 90's) and then fall asleep on the couch.  Then the next day, rinse, wash, repeat.

IMSA on TV

Zoom Background - I was excited at the idea of having my ceiling train as a backdrop (and a conversation piece) but have yet to get around to finish the darn thing months later .  So I never use it in meetings and only use the various images pulled from the internet.

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Oh well, happy railroading!

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I am a high school teacher and so is my wife.....the on line thing is a 24 hour seven days a week gig. My wife and I both noticed that high school kids are nocturnal. So if you really care about what you are doing, you meet your students where and when they are available. It would seem like we should have had more time, but with everyone on different home schedules it has actually taken my time.

In addition we have had to learn new technologies and software on the fly....taking more of our time.......I had to shut notifications sounds because my students work and turn in their assignments, 24/7. Our school district is trying to put online teaching like a schedule work day. We sit in room and broadcast lessons 5 days a week. So we go to school, but kids stay home. Upside down for sure.

So, I have less dedicated time and if I want dedicated time with no distractions....I shut the outside world off, and like Arnold, I leave the troubled world behind

 

@Catdaddy posted:

I am a high school teacher and so is my wife.....the on line thing is a 24 hour seven days a week gig. My wife and I both noticed that high school kids are nocturnal. So if you really care about what you are doing, you meet your students where and when they are available. It would seem like we should have had more time, but with everyone on different home schedules it has actually taken my time.

In addition we have had to learn new technologies and software on the fly....taking more of our time.......I had to shut notifications sounds because my students work and turn in their assignments, 24/7. Our school district is trying to put online teaching like a schedule work day. We sit in room and broadcast lessons 5 days a week. So we go to school, but kids stay home. Upside down for sure.

So, I have less dedicated time and if I want dedicated time with no distractions....I shut the outside world off, and like Arnold, I leave the troubled world behind

 

Teachers, like you, Catdaddy, do such important, essential work. I salute you for your dedication to your students and willingness to meet their needs.

I hope that you will soon get more richly deserved leisure time so you have more time for trains and whatever else you love.

You, and those other Forum members who provide essential services, are heroes.  Arnold

My hat is off to you too, Catdaddy!!!  My brother is a high school special education teacher in Berkeley County, West Virginia.  He had a time of it last spring with everything changing by the hour.  I saw some of it when he came up for our aunt's funeral in mid-March.  He had logged into the school site on my computer and had me watch for emails as he traveled back down, because it wasn't clear whether he was to report to school or call in the next day.  With special education for students with emotional disabilities it was difficult to come up with 'creative ideas' as I saw on the emails, and very difficult to get them to do their work.  He has sometimes described his students as being like the Sweathogs on Welcome back Kotter, and other years more like the students from To Sir With Love.  It took him a lot of years to figure out how to relate to that student group.  As a bachelor, he had never seen the need for a smartphone or even texting.  By June, he called me on a smartphone he had purchased out of necessity to do his job, and he finally figured out texting.  The school gave him a Microsoft Surface, which of course is different than the computer at school, so he had to learn it sitting at the picnic table in his apartment complex courtyard for better wifi signal.  He laments he still has one more year to teach before he retires at 62.  Yes, he is a younger brother.  He still doesn't know what format will be used in less than a month from now.  I am thinking his last year of teaching may prove to be the toughest of his career.  

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Mark,

My wife is a high school teacher, and I did sub work when I was laid off about 10 years ago. So I understand the situation well. At the moment, I'm putting in 3 days on site and 2 at home. I fully agree with the your comments and those of other teachers. This has been a real stressful mess! Both my wife and I had to learn Zoom on the fly. Fortunately, I have WebEx experience b/c that's what my employer uses. So I picked up the jest of Zoom pretty quickly and could help my wife cope with it. She is not computer tech savvy and never will be. Her brain is not wired that way. But between us, we have managed to get her skills up sufficiently that she can teach from home. Her school has announced plans for in-person instruction this fall, but with the situation so fluid, that could change at the drop of a hat. As it is, working with both remote and in school formats simultaneously is a great deal more work. We are happy that both of us are close to retirement, and could walk away from it all if need be. We have often discussed how Special Ed. teachers can do their jobs under these conditions. Our jobs are stressful enough as it is: Multiply  the SE job stress by 10x!

The one bright spot for me was I did almost no commuting for over 3 months. That was 2 hrs for time and gas saved every day. I spent it profitably by a) sleeping an extra hour, and b) starting on my long planned "permanent" layout. I've actually gotten quite a bit done: The bench work is 95% complete, and most of the preliminary wiring is done. I did have to put things on hold for 3 weeks or so, due to a home remodeling project. The contractor was able to come out once we went to orange and do his part. Then it was my turn. Anyway, that's all done and it is back to the layout! 

 

Chris

LVHR

I'd love to be home working from my home office if it was possible. The walls are full of hundreds of postwar trains and it's simply a wonderful place to be. The fact of the matter is that in my line of business,which is designated a essential business, requires a lot of travel and months away from home.Contrary to what most people have heard,the Oil and Gas business is very busy with a lot of big pipeline projects going on. I'm working on two high profile projects presently. Nowadays, My weekends are spent holed up in a hotel room. The Pandemic has made it impossible to do the things I usually do while away from home. I spend a lot of time reading and buying on ebay.

I usually go to Train Shops,Train Shows,Flea Markets,Concerts,Museums.Fortunately,I only have another month to go! I cannot wait to get back to building the layout,playing music and relaxing in my happy place.

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