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Here's one from the T&P. The T&P had a somewhat interesting history. It was chartered in 1871 however the Missouri Pacific gained majority ownership in 1928 but allowed T&P to continue to operate as a separate entity until they were finally merged in 1976. Then in 1980 the Missouri Pacific was purchased by the Union Pacific RR . Due to various legal and financial difficulties the actual merger with UP took place in 1997. Portions of the T&P remain in use today, including 2 huge building that more or less set the skyline for the southern side of Fort Worth, Tx.
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Don
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@Vinny DeAngelis posted:
Vinny:
That is car is GREAT!!!! What is the make? How old is it? I am a PRR fanatic and want one if they are out there on the market.
Thank you for any information.
@Randy Harrison posted:Vinny:
That is car is GREAT!!!! What is the make? How old is it? I am a PRR fanatic and want one if they are out there on the market.
Thank you for any information.
It's Sunset 3rd Rail R50. I believe I bought it around 20 years ago.
@Randy Harrison posted:Vinny:
That is car is GREAT!!!! What is the make? How old is it? I am a PRR fanatic and want one if they are out there on the market.
Thank you for any information.
Randy, MTH offered a B60b in 2 road #s in 2007. Catalog # 20-94135, with olive trucks, circa 1929. Road #s 2751, 2755. Notice the designation “American Railway Express”.
I picked up a 2 rail version without trucks. I used a pair of silver trucks on which I did a terrible job painting. The road # is 2592, I couldn’t find a catalog #. This one is Railway Express Agency.
Happy hunting.
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@pennsyfan posted:
These are R50b express reefers. PRR Passenger and express cars had green trucks until just after WWII started. They had brown roofs prior to 1940, then black. So for a very short time, the official color scheme was brown roof and green trucks. Both the brown roof and green trucks lasted until the cars were shopped.
@pennsyfan posted:
Bob:
Thanks for the information. I found one after reading your post. I will display it on a future Refer Monday.
@Vinny DeAngelis posted:It's Sunset 3rd Rail R50. I believe I bought it around 20 years ago.
Vinny:
Thanks for the reply and information. pennsyfan Bob also led me to an MTH Premier version of the same car with black trucks. I have found one and will be buying it.
For those folks interested in this, American Railway Express (ARE) was formed in July 1918 by the consolidation of almost all private express companies. Like the formation of the United States Railroad Administration (USRA), formation of the ARE was part of the WW1 effort to increase efficiency.
After WW1 it was determined to be too complex to break up the ARE back into individual express companies. An agreement was reached where 69 railroads would take over ARE and in 1929 the Railway Express Agency (REA) was formed. Not all railroads participated in REA, but only those that did received profits from REA operations.
Anyway, if you layout era is set after, say, 1940, try not to get an ARE marked car. They were probably all repainted to REA by then.
@CAPPilot posted:For those folks interested in this, American Railway Express (ARE) was formed in July 1918 by the consolidation of almost all private express companies. Like the formation of the United States Railroad Administration (USRA), formation of the ARE was part of the WW1 effort to increase efficiency.
After WW1 it was determined to be too complex to break up the ARE back into individual express companies. An agreement was reached where 69 railroads would take over ARE and in 1929 the Railway Express Agency (REA) was formed. Not all railroads participated in REA, but only those that did received profits from REA operations.
Anyway, if you layout era is set after, say, 1940, try not to get an ARE marked car. They were probably all repainted to REA by then.
Now you tell me! LOL. Well I guess mine slipped past the painters. 😜
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For this Monday I created a little scene with my reefer that has roots to a 65 year old memory. When I worked in the deli, there was a Bar and Grill across the street. It was the corner building. The beer trucks would go half way around the corner right at the curb. The middle of the truck was over the sidewalk. The driver would open the side door and throw down a mat made out of heavy rope on the sidewalk. Then he would tumble the kegs out. They would hit the mat and his helper would move them to the basement door of the bar. I always imagined the mat to be a bumper from the bow of a tugboat. After several failed attempts of modeling the rope bumper by weaving heavy yarn and then scale rope I settled on coiling the scale rope. Not having the setup to create the scene in my memory; I created this scene of unloading the reefer onto a delivery truck.
I should note that a tugboat crew wouldn’t call it a bumper; it’s a fender. A fender wouldn’t be on the bow. The bow is protected by the “Bow Pudding”.
Out of respect for the Forum rules I won’t post a picture of a bow pudding here. If anyone is interested I’ll send a link.
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Added a new refer to the fleet last week. Great South Bay Brewery is a microbrewery here on Long Island. MTH did the car for Nassau Hobby.
https://www.greatsouthbaybrewery.com/bayshore
Bob
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@pennsyfan- I do have a comment on your post. In 1967, as one of my many "summer" jobs, I drove a beer delivery truck for "Hy Grade Beverage" in New Jersey. Once per week we delivered kegs (rest of the time it was case beer) and in fact used a rope "bumper" in unloading. The cans were turned onto their side and then allowed to drop from the truck and the bumper prevented them from bouncing (which they would do, just like a ball filled with air). So your bumper story really fits reality.
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Don
Well "going to school on pennsyfan" I tried setting up a little scene with my Lionel Blue Bell Ice Cream reefer...here are the folks unloading a car full of ice cream and the ice cream truck is just waiting to get loaded. The young man sitting on top of the truck just can't wait to get his ice cream pop.
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Don
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Posted these in another thread...somewhere, sometime ago. But, hey, with a title like 'Reefer Monday', why not once more?...
From the Ambroid/Gloor kit of the 50' wood sided Rr-37 ATSF reefers.
After doing 12 of them...each a different car number...I decided to quit snagging those kits...
...and move on to another bucket list project!
KD
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You don't see too many American Refrigerator Transit Co. cars posted, but they had one of the largest fleets of reefers. At one point in the 1940s they had over 12,000 cars. The company was started in 1881 and lasted until the early 1980s. They started out transporting meat then expanded to all items needing reefers.
Both Atlas.
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It’s Reefer Monday! Time to show off your reefers. Please adhere to forum guidelines when posting.
For this Monday, May 13, 2024 I have this Williams Lehigh Valley 97477 Map Reefer
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Pennsy Fan, That is a very nice reefer. It reminds me of a trivia question. Can you name the five largest cities in New York State? This question stumped me and many others. The car helps with a hint. I will post the answer in another post later this morning.
@Bill Park posted:Pennsy Fan, That is a very nice reefer. It reminds me of a trivia question. Can you name the five largest cities in New York State? This question stumped me and many others. The car helps with a hint. I will post the answer in another post later this morning.
Ok I have my 5
@pennsyfan posted:Ok I have my 5
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Here is an interesting one. The Marx "Man in the Door" Colorado & Southern Refr. What is even more interesting is that Marx, normally always looking to save expense, lithographed both sides of this car differently! Check out side 2 in the lower picture.
C&S Man in the Door refr - side 2 !
So I guess we have to assume not only did Mr. Marx have a poor worker riding inside of a refrigerator car while it was moving between stops but he had TWO workers riding inside...Brrrrrrr!.
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Don
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My Gerber's reefer on this fine reefer Monday.
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@Sitka posted:My Gerber's reefer on this fine reefer Monday.
Really nice car. KMT or AMT? I looked at that at YORK but it was kind of pricey. I was going to go back; but went out a different door and forgot about it.
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@pennsyfan posted:Really nice car. KMT or AMT? I looked at that at YORK but it was kind of pricey. I was going to go back; but went out a different door and forgot about it.
Bob that is a homemade car. Came up with the idea after seeing the price on this style car, bought a PW Lionel 6470 exploding car the sides were good so will use them to replace the bad ones on other cars, bought some balsa wood, came across on ebay Gerber Baby food reefer sides I guess heavy paper the material. Matched the paint the best I could to my dad's HO reefer that I posted awhile back. Cut the balsa wood to fit on the car sprayed adhesive on the balsa and paper then hot glued the side in place then added roof. Came out pretty good. Total cost 25 bucks with car and material. Think I will add ladders to the sides. Thanks Mark
@Sitka posted:Bob that is a homemade car. Came up with the idea after seeing the price on this style car, bought a PW Lionel 6470 exploding car the sides were good so will use them to replace the bad ones on other cars, bought some balsa wood, came across on ebay Gerber Baby food reefer sides I guess heavy paper the material. Matched the paint the best I could to my dad's HO reefer that I posted awhile back. Cut the balsa wood to fit on the car sprayed adhesive on the balsa and paper then hot glued the side in place then added roof. Came out pretty good. Total cost 25 bucks with car and material. Think I will add ladders to the sides. Thanks Mark
Wow! You nailed it Mark.
Well last week I showed the Marx cream / blue "Man in the Door" C & S reefer, here is the somewhat more common Marx #555 cream / red C&S reefer.
Hope you have a great week.
Don
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On this Monday let’s pause to remember those that gave everything for our freedom. I’m going to deviate from this Reefer Monday and post this Boxcar and memorial first.
People pausing at the town’s memorial for fallen heroes.
Here is my reefer for this Monday.
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