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Happy New Year! I recently purchased a large American Flyer and Lionel paper collection. When going through everything included with sale I came across American Flyer factory blue prints for two diesel engines. The 1st one being a F3 or Alco dated 6-24-1950 with the number being XA-11378 and approved by initials W.R.H. The 2nd one being a #230 Diesel Switcher dated 7-18-1950 and drawn by R.E.D. Jr. I also have a factory blue print for a IMP engine. The drawing says it's O gauge 17/64 scale. Its a class "ED16" 1BB1 Electric Loco No.5925. Does anyone know if these drawings are rare or were they made available to collectors? Also does anyone know about the IMP engine? I have never heard of this company. Thanks.

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I don't know anything about the scarcity of American Flyer blueprints.
Someone told me that Gilbert sent them out to their service stations for repair documentation. Don't recall who, and have never substantiated this.
I have several:

Pullmore motor
21851 Diesel with bell
21085 Steam loco
Pacific tender assembly
13201 telescope.

 

I 've had a few of these various sizes, from my uncles collection - I believe I still have the EP-5.

Not really sure how these would help service the trains. They aren't exploded diagrams. More like side profiles. I guess they do have some parts list stuff.  I think I had a tender, some locos, even a telescope.

I kept the EP-5 since it looked pretty cool. The blueprint-ness gives them a nice "industrial" look.

You have to really look at it before you realize it's a blueprint - for a toy!

 

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Not really sure how these would help service the trains. They aren't exploded diagrams. More like side profiles. I guess they do have some parts list stuff.  I think I had a tender, some locos, even a telescope.

I wonder whether you had the same telescope blueprint as I.

The blueprints I have are all of late pieces. I have an original American Flyer Service manual, as well as a hardbound reprint that was done some years ago. I don't think any of the pieces had service manual pages.

My blueprints came in a big lot of Hobby Shop papers that included Lionel and American Flyer paper, as well as some other companies' retail and wholesale catalogs.

Dwayne's blueprints may be a different case. Being that his A.F. blueprints are dated to 1950, I think it is likely that there are service manual pages for them.

As I wrote earlier, I do not recall who told me the blueprints were sent out as substitues for service manual pages. Might not be true.

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Interesting......Yes, my blueprints have a revisions section on the bottom were 4 different workers signed off with their initials after they made changes. Then more initials and different dates for drawn by, checked by, and approved by. Do any of your plans have the above? The collector I purchased these from worked for Lionel in the early 50s and also owned a prototype American Flyer hand car from the 50s. The story goes his father was friends with an American Flyer Sales rep and that's how he acquired the prototype. Maybe this explains how he got these blueprints also. Sadly I can't ask this man about the blue prints because he has had several strokes and can no long communicate.

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