2-10-10-2 Arrival (and problems)

That won't fit under the tree!!

Wow, that paint scheme is fantastic 🤤

Hmmm, I bet I know what the whistle on the vl Class a will sound like.

Also interesting, that sounds like a new/fresh hooter whistle for Lionel. Wonder where that came from?...hmm.

That loco is amazing! Hats off to Lionel. Drop dead gorgeous! Think I will stay away from it as I couldn't deal with having to find someone on my own to repair it when the warranty runs out.

I would think if they have it in the store it shipped. Also note the price tag riding on top of the Tinder.

I hope it shipped. That would be pretty cool to get it soon. Although I have no curves big enough to run it at the moment.

Nassau Hobby has them in stock.

My mistake, I thought you were debating whether Lionel had shipped them to the stores.

Nah haha @shasta I deduced that they came across the ocean. It was the remaining trip to my porch that I was curious about

Just another reminder of how strong the 2021 Catalog was.  It scares me to think of the financial shape I would be in without my "one loco / year" limit.

Got mine.

@Stephen Johnson posted:

Just another reminder of how strong the 2021 Catalog was.  It scares me to think of the financial shape I would be in without my "one loco / year" limit.

It beat my wallet up but it was worth it for sentimental reasons.

@laz1957 posted:

Got mine.

Well spill the beans! How is it?! Im hoping mine shows up Monday.

I have the original VL version I love it.

BILLO4014

  I just ordered it coming next week. Can’t wait.

@Shawn_Chronister posted:

I have the original VL version I love it.

I know it was well received. I hope they nail it this time too. It's such an interesting looking locomotive because of the way the boiler looks. I guess it looks undersized to me.

@laz1957 posted:

BILLO4014

  I just ordered it coming next week. Can’t wait.

Ohh I thought you meant yours arrived.

@BillYo414 posted:

I know it was well received. I hope they nail it this time too. It's such an interesting looking locomotive because of the way the boiler looks. I guess it looks undersized to me.

Ohh I thought you meant yours arrived.

Its was undersized it was two regular 2-10-2's hob cobbled together and it was a huge failure for SF so much so alot of them were turned back into regular 2 -10-2's.

Forgive my ignorance, but what kind of consists was that engine designed to pull?

Peter

@Putnam Division posted:

Forgive my ignorance, but what kind of consists was that engine designed to pull?

Peter

It was an unsuccessful freight locomotive.  The were eventually rebuilt into 2-10-2's between 1915-1918.

Rusty

@Rusty Traque posted:

It was an unsuccessful freight locomotive.  The were eventually rebuilt into 2-10-2's between 1915-1918.

Rusty

Noted, thank you.........

Peter

@Rusty Traque posted:

It was an unsuccessful freight locomotive.  The were eventually rebuilt into 2-10-2's between 1915-1918.

Rusty

@Putnam Division posted:

Noted, thank you.........

Peter

Peter - The Virginian Railway had 10 of these locos built for them in 1918.  They ran out of steam quickly and could only be used as helper locomotives on a short but steep grade. The AE class could take a big train from Mullins to Roanoke but they were much slower than a Norfolk & Western class Y-6 or any simple articulated. The AE class pretty much was limited to 20 mph.  In the early 1920s, the Virginia electrified the division the Class AE was designed for. The "Square Head" electric locomotives could move similar sized trains at 25 miles per hour. The AEs were too slow for the relatively level Roanoke to Victoria division, and being a 2-10-10-2 were to long for the tight curves of the branch lines to the coal mines, so they were used as heavy-duty shunters at the Sewell Point coal pier, from 1925 to the late 1940s.

-Greg

Didn't the Virginian version have a bigger boiler? I thought it looked different. It looks a lot beefier.

@Greg Houser posted:

Peter - The Virginian Railway had 10 of these locos built for them in 1918.

-Greg

@BillYo414 posted:

Didn't the Virginian version have a bigger boiler? I thought it looked different. It looks a lot beefier.

While both roads had 2-10-10-2's, the wheel arrangement was the only common factor.

The Virginian locomotives weighed about 16,000 pounds more, had larger cylinders and about 26,000 pounds more in tractive effort than the Santa Fe's.  Plus the Virginian 2-10-10-2's were built in 1918, the same year the last of the Santa Fe 2-10-10-2's were rebuilt into 2-10-2's.

Rusty

Gotcha. I think I misunderstood the pages I skimmed. I thought they were all built at the same time but with certain design tweaks.

I just got the notification that mine has shipped. So that's exciting! It's less exciting that I tore most of the 4x8 test layout down when I painted the ceiling

Looking forward to receiving the "Black Bonnet" #3005. I know it's a fantasy scheme, but what the heck it's all in fun. I just hope my wife doesn't know what I $$ ;~)

@Ford33 posted:

Looking forward to receiving the "Black Bonnet" #3005. I know it's a fantasy scheme, but what the heck it's all in fun. I just hope my wife doesn't know what I $$ ;~)

When you receive it, would be kind enough to share a video/ photo of it?

@Ford33 I got the blacked out version but man those "fantasy" schemes are SHARP. I kind of regret my choice haha

Wow!!!!!!  That was an extremely impressive display.

George

BillYo, I actually ordered the #3009 like you did, which looks the most realistic of the 4. Somehow my kid brain and the iconic bonnet took over and I switched. They all look good, it's a tough call.

@G3750 can't wait to see it pull coal drags!

@Ford33 yeah a friend tried to talk me into buying a fantasy scheme when I preordered but I kind of expected them to look cartoonish in real life. I was very wrong haha

I got a call on Monday that #3009 came in to my LTS. Eric of Eric's Trains popped a video of his #3001 at Legacy Station. In that video they also popped #3009 on the rails for a test run. I'm so glad I went with #3009 because of the blackened drivers.

I love the look of the blackened drivers. I hope to weather this thing one day and I think the blackened drivers will look great in the meantime.

Just picked up my black bonnet today, this thing is gorgeous in person

Man that is such a nice paint scheme!! Looks great!! How's it run?

@BillYo414 posted:

Man that is such a nice paint scheme!! Looks great!! How's it run?

Fantastic, it's a lumbering giant and definitely likes to run at lower speeds.

@SB30 posted:

Fantastic, it's a lumbering giant and definitely likes to run at lower speeds.

Awesome. Allegedly, mine arrives tomorrow. I don't have any 0-72 loops at the moment. Might just power it up on a straight away I guess.

@SB30 posted:

Fantastic, it's a lumbering giant and definitely likes to run at lower speeds.

Just like real life!

@SB30 posted:

Just picked up my black bonnet today, this thing is gorgeous in person

Wow! That thing is gorgeous! My Black Bonnet arrives tomorrow.

It appears Lionel knocked it out of the park on this Vision offering.

@N'awlins posted:

Wow! That thing is gorgeous! My Black Bonnet arrives tomorrow.

It appears Lionel knocked it out of the park on this Vision offering.

It's very glossy, almost like it's after a restoration version if there ever would've been one. I think some nice heavyweight Santa Fe passenger cars and a fantasy excursion train are in the works for this