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I recently received my BTO Milw E7AA engines. Front engine is powered, rear engines is non-powered. They look great.  HOWEVER, they have very limited traction.  The AA engines can only pull four aluminum cars around a 72 inch curve, unless I am highballing.  The AA engines can only pull two cars up a 3% grade, unless I am highballing.  I set the powered engine on a level O scale straight test track.  (very level).  I observed that the first wheel set (non drive) and the third wheel set (drive) are in contact with the track.  The middle wheel set (drive set) does not touch the track.  I can easily slip a business card between the center wheels and the track.  My dual motor engine may have four drive axels, but the wheels on only two drive axels are making contact with the track (fortunately, the wheel sets in contact have the traction tires). Could this be the reason for the limited traction and pulling power???  Is there a break in period for the traction tires?  Should I add more weight to the powered A unit?

If I can only pull the Lionel set of four passenger cars, there is no point in my purchasing the additional two car set. 

Any ideas?  Thanks,

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Sorry to hear this. I was going to purchase a set of Burlington E7's, but now I am going to pass. 

The Legacy PA's, and Legacy E8/E9's have a bit of the same problem. Not sure why sufficient weight was not added in the fuel tank area for these to be better pullers.

This is why I cannot order BTO. Just too many surprises.

I would investigate adding weight to the powered A unit and make sure the motors do not over heat.

Dave,

First couple of things i would check is the Odyssey switch, then make sure the traction tires aren't rubbing on anything,. If that's not the issue then read my post in the link below, the motor shaft breaks loose from 4 pin impeller. I fix it them all the time with  loc-tight, but yours are under warranty so Lionel can repair them. To see if this is the problem you can apply a lot of power, then try stopping the wheels with your fingers. If you hear the motors spinning at the same hi speed, this is the problem. Of course you have to do this with both powered trucks.

Here's the Link-          https://ogrforum.com/topic/es44-diesel-repair

 

Alex

 

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