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So I bought the RBL 6 passenger cars because they should be beautiful and I have high hopes about looking good running around the layout.   Problem is, I do not care for the Engine model Lionel chose to model with the pass car set.  I get it, the ten wheeler they picked is probably the most correct one and all that, but it isn't a fit for me.   The small drivers bother me!  (No size jokes please!)  I like big drivers on an engine, especially pulling 6 heavyweights.   I don't have the BL book, but have read online that several different engines were used over the years from 1890-1950's when service discontinued.  From what I have read, it seems several other engines had more of the 78-80" drivers with a more powerful- aggressive- type look?   Just as a point of discussion from those of you who are more well read than I, which other engine in the current or recent Lionel catalogs can go (correctly or "semi" -Correctly) with these royal blue heavy coaches, with a better looking set of drivers?   Thoughts?  Opinions?   Not stirring a pot or opening a can of worms, would just encourage some dialogue to help me pick an alternate engine.   Lionel model numbers to help me find would be appreciated!   I'll check back in later as the day progresses and I can.  Thanks.

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I had thought about it myself but did not bite on it. While the B&O's blue locomotives are stunning to the eye, I just don't know if the color would be right. I had picked up the Mr. Muffin's custom run Pacific which I had them paint it in the dark blue. I would say see if there is any of those left at Muffin's or try finding something on the secondary market. I did see an old Weaver engine out there that was blue.

I had thought about it myself but did not bite on it. While the B&O's blue locomotives are stunning to the eye, I just don't know if the color would be right. I had picked up the Mr. Muffin's custom run Pacific which I had them paint it in the dark blue. I would say see if there is any of those left at Muffin's or try finding something on the secondary market. I did see an old Weaver engine out there that was blue.

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Here is my Mr Muffins custom B&O pacific. I had it weathered and it’s easily one of my favorites. It’s a dark blue but the weathering makes it darker still.

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I didn't know Muffin would do custom in house painting.  Is that what you are saying?   How did they do getting the right color blue?   I worry about the blue not matching, which is why I was thinking an all black engine.   I don't want to go too old also, I need to have bluetooth availability.

Well not quite in house. It goes out to Harry who does whatever work is required. The shades of blue on the Pacific was put on his podcast or whatever you would call it some time ago. The only custom B&O engine on at his store at the moment is a Mountain type. I doubt those were blue in any way, but I'd say to ask Steve. Regardless, there is always all sorts of projects that come out of the new catalogs, hope something works out for you since there are no more Pacific's.

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Lionel 2431160 - Legacy F19 Pacific Steam Engine "Chesapeake & Ohio" #492 (George Washington)

Would this be a correct engine?   I read somewhere the GW was used sometimes on the royal Blue...?

B&O didn’t paint their engines blue until the early 1940s. By then the open vestibule cars would have been sold or scrapped. When the cars were new a 4-4-2 or 4-4-0 would have been the likely power. Pacifics came along later but not appearing as the newer versions that Lionel has offered.

MTH has offered some high wheeled 4-4-0s and Atlantics like the Empire State Express. Maybe even one painted blue???

https://www.mthtrains.com/20-3782-1

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