Hi everyone, someone posted this on the Lionel Trains Facebook site.It’s a 1950’s Lionel conversion to 2 rail layout.He says no one seems to know who the builder was /is. It’s quite the build!.. I figure if no one on this site knows, no one does. I know it probably belongs on the 2rail site here,but, figured some one may have seen conversion layouts here…It’s kind of interesting and Unique, even the rolling stock, especially the passenger cars. Thanks for any info..enjoy the video….https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RQTgwwXIpj0&t=1210s
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Here's an easier link.
Very interesting video!
Jim
Yes thanks Jim ..mine was YouTube but I should just added the title in YouTube’s search box instead of trying to copy ..thanks again . I also saw this on Vimeo.
Actually Jlm if you go to YouTube up in the search box— O gauge model railroad-1950’s-Charlie Dean Archives it will start from the beginning but I think it may be the same starting point as the video you posted..good luck.
Hi Dennis,
That is a super interesting Video. Thanks for posting.
IF LIONEL O Gauge had been a 2 Rail Product, I never would have left O Gauge to move over to HO Gauge Years ago.
Now I am back buying a little of 3 Rail Standard Gauge !
Norman
Hi Norman , yes it is. Welcome..I did same , but always kept the Lionel ..now have both gauges. Looks like his layout is hand laid track maybe? I can only imagine the work alone that went into the switches and crossovers back out on the mainlines , etc.
Norman , meant You’re Welcome
The stop motion animation of the cars and trucks is also nicely done - very impressive work.
Yes it is
That is an amazing level of modeling for a late 1940s layout. Some things that really stick out to me:
- how did he manage to 2 rail the 675 mechanism and how did he manage to get these engines to pull so many cars?
- how did he do the stop motion autos with trains moving in the same scene?
- how did he get his passenger cars to operate with no light flicker?
- how did he get his crossing flashers to alternate so perfectly?
Yes it is Ryan ! Good questions…someone here suggested he could have animated the autos into the video somehow. My only guess about lights not flicking in the cars could possibly be battery operated lights, but I kind of doubt it, but who knows? About pulling all those cars, it seems some times you didn’t see the entire train going by, maybe.excuse my ignorance but is the 675 part of the usual middle rail pickup rollers!
I remember the late Bill Thomas of Olney Miniature Trains in Philadelphia converted some Lionel diesels to two rail back in the early 1960s.
It wouldn’t surprise me, a lot of talent out there.
My next door neighbor started getting some Lionel trains in the 1930’s and 1940’s. He passed away several years ago, but what he had done was start moving towards making the trains more scale in appearance. From lots of his train parts I could tell he had experimented with this. Ultimately, at the time we bought our house next door and met him at n 1974, he had a large around the wall O scale layout. All the track and switches were two rail, hand laid and ballasted. He had a couple of Lionel engines that he modified to two rail. He had a machinist friend who insulated the axles and turned down the flanges of all the wheels. He used scale sized couplers. He also scratch built freight and passenger cars. It was quite a layout. When he passed away, he left all his trains and model structures to our son.
Let's have an expert comment on this....
Hi Don, Your comments on this film would be appreciated.
Lou N
John, sweet. So your son received these trains and then......(The rest of the story)
@Dennis Pateras posted:Yes it is Ryan ! Good questions…someone here suggested he could have animated the autos into the video somehow. My only guess about lights not flicking in the cars could possibly be battery operated lights, but I kind of doubt it, but who knows? About pulling all those cars, it seems some times you didn’t see the entire train going by, maybe.excuse my ignorance but is the 675 part of the usual middle rail pickup rollers!
To convert the 675 mechanism to 2 rail, I’m guessing he would have insulated the axles from the wheels. He would need to add insulated shims to keep the wheels from rubbing on the frame and add wipers to pick up power. To do this with 1940s materials is impressive.
As for pulling, the nickel rim baldwin disc drivers have never been great pullers albeit very smooth running. The 675 and related locomotives are generally only good for 5-6 postwar freight cars on level track. The film shows double headed 675’s pulling 20 plus freight cars. I think he’s still using the original Lionel motor because you can see the engines hesitate to overcome the static friction when starting a train in the same way as an original Lionel engine would.
WP, sounds a lot like what this guy did.
I think we need Columbo to solve this🤣
Ryan , yes impressive is right!!
Also, passenger cars look like the old tinplate kit brands like Wagner, Model Rail, or a rare Lionel? Plenty of food for thought on this layout.
@Ryan Selvius posted:..The 675 and related locomotives are generally only good for 5-6 postwar freight cars on level track...
I'm going to test that this Christmas.
Hi,
Does anyone know what is the Brand of the Read to Lay Flex O Gauge Track of Fibre Ties and " Staples " for the Rail Spikes ?
At least that is what I think that I am seeing.
Norman
@OGRNorman posted:Hi,
Does anyone know what is the Brand of the Read to Lay Flex O Gauge Track of Fibre Ties and " Staples " for the Rail Spikes ?
At least that is what I think that I am seeing.
Norman
Bob Peare?
Here is a part of his 1954 catalog:
Here's a link to the whole catalog:
Jim