Oh yeah, he’s doing that SC40-2 premium version with all opening doors and a prime mover and generator inside.that things gonna be sweet.
Hot Water posted:Well, "catnap" only said "...that nobody has been able to make a respectable model in O scale.", without any price limitation. Thus, if he wants a truly accurate model,,,,,,,,,,,he better get his checkbook or credit card out.
Oh, I'm aware of MMW's prices ($3K for the standard model and $4K+ for the premium) . I don't want one that bad.
Fortunately, Atlas made an awesome SD40 and I have 2 with 2 more preordered. And, at a price well under $500 I can live without a -2 model that carries a price tag far north of $1K.
Matt Makens posted:Jack, Erik’s Models will have a price tag well above $1200.
dont worry about the FP45s, he’ll make em soon enough I’m sure, Therecare only so many prototypes left.
He's not going to make anything he cannot make money on. And more people expressed an interest in SD40-2s than FP45s. But, don't get me wrong, I've asked him several time to just put it out there and see what happens. If sufficient people email him and say please change the SD40-2 for an FP45... As I said earlier he doesn't even have sufficient SD40-2 reservations right now to make it at $1200.
As for the Atlas version of the SD40, I agree the shell is great. So is the Lionel SD40 and SD38. I've got several that I relegated everything other than the shell and a few other parts to the parts bins.
Matt Makens posted:Oh yeah, he’s doing that SC40-2 premium version with all opening doors and a prime mover and generator inside.that things gonna be sweet.
can you clarify because it sounds like you say that the long hood engine access doors open which is something i've wanted in a diesel since forever so i could create a servicing scene what is the exact name of the company thats making this so i can read more about it hopefully if everything works out career wise and what not a CSX and SP and demo unit will join my roster alongside that mth yellowstone i want so bad thanks to an awesome dude named Tommy Z.
paigetrain posted:Matt Makens posted:Oh yeah, he’s doing that SC40-2 premium version with all opening doors and a prime mover and generator inside.that things gonna be sweet.
can you clarify because it sounds like you say that the long hood engine access doors open which is something i've wanted in a diesel since forever so i could create a servicing scene what is the exact name of the company thats making this so i can read more about it
Midwest Model Works, i.e. "MMW" (try a Google search). However, his models are $3000 to $4000 EACH, so begin saving your Penneys. Also, they are only produced in 2-Rail SCALE.
hopefully if everything works out career wise and what not a CSX and SP and demo unit will join my roster alongside that mth yellowstone i want so bad thanks to an awesome dude named Tommy Z.
Also note the opening hood version shows as having maxed out on reservations. MMW also does proto 48 wheel spacing and widths for those who model it.
His models are well out of a range I would pay, but they are second to none if near perfect scale fidelity is your goal.
Last I talked with Erik, there was room for reservations on the premium version but he’s only making 50
rdunniii posted:Matt Makens posted:Jack, Erik’s Models will have a price tag well above $1200.
dont worry about the FP45s, he’ll make em soon enough I’m sure, Therecare only so many prototypes left.
He's not going to make anything he cannot make money on. And more people expressed an interest in SD40-2s than FP45s. But, don't get me wrong, I've asked him several time to just put it out there and see what happens
Exactly how does he "know" he can't make money on it if refuses to put it out there?? At least give it a shot. There's 5 paint schemes in Santa Fe alone.
Matt Makens posted:Last I talked with Erik, there was room for reservations on the premium version but he’s only making 50
No surprise there at 4200 + shipping this is a very limited market and the SD 45 project has yet to deliver a finished model to customers. just saying!
Laidoffsick posted:rdunniii posted:Matt Makens posted:Jack, Erik’s Models will have a price tag well above $1200.
dont worry about the FP45s, he’ll make em soon enough I’m sure, Therecare only so many prototypes left.
He's not going to make anything he cannot make money on. And more people expressed an interest in SD40-2s than FP45s. But, don't get me wrong, I've asked him several time to just put it out there and see what happens
Exactly how does he "know" he can't make money on it if refuses to put it out there?? At least give it a shot. There's 5 paint schemes in Santa Fe alone.
He actually pays way more attention to people who attend meets and shows than people on this forum. But, as I have said, I have asked him more than once to just put them up there and see what happens.
Matt Makens posted:Last I talked with Erik, there was room for reservations on the premium version but he’s only making 50
And the people who want 2 DDA40Xs premium and a fast 40 premium to go with them are the ones pushing. He says he already has the minimum for the DD premiums so...
What happened to the KM ML-4000 posts?
Keep on point guys.
Although this thread is wandering a bit, I find it interesting that there are people that will spend $4000+ on a brass diesel with opening doors and a model of a prime mover inside to look at, and others that will pass up on a totally unique model because it is a few hundred dollars more than the same old, same old.
We will leave the Krauss Maffei ML-4000 up for reserve until we see 150 or so, then I can begin design and tooling. From there production happens pretty rapidly.
I was given a tour of the one at Niles Canyon a few weeks ago. Very impressive. All the screws holding the Chassis parts on are aligned horizontally. All the screws on the body are aligned vertically, I could have that backwards. German engineering through and through. We have no shortage of data to work with, only need interested customers. I think these unique models will sell to those that don't model SP or D&RGW as well and in Europe.
Finishing up here in China. TP 2-10-4s are in their container on their way home. I will be too on the 5th.
Most of all... enjoy your hobby.
sdmann posted:I was given a tour of the one at Niles Canyon a few weeks ago. Very impressive. All the screws holding the Chassis parts on are aligned horizontally. All the screws on the body are aligned vertically, I could have that backwards. German engineering through and through.
I have always believed that there were "Germanisms" all over these locomotives. Very interesting machines, and, since you are an engineer, you caught this one right away.
Even when l was in HO, and had not committed to a steam era date, Athearn (or somebody), had these in all the mags and in all the hobby shops (when we had those). Seems like several unsuccessful K-Mart style stores (Woolco, etc.)., were discounting these. I bought a bunch of HO at a Woolco closing, but not these. Does this mean steam is too expensive now, and Scott couldn't sell 500 #90's? I better live to a hundred if l have to scratch build one.
colorado hirailer posted:Even when l was in HO, and had not committed to a steam era date, Athearn (or somebody), had these in all the mags and in all the hobby shops (when we had those).
Rivarossi/AHM made the ML-4000's (Rio Grande headlight version only) back in the mid-1960's:
I had a pair of Rio Grande's, sorta wish I kept them...
Rusty
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Today I added another brass quality diesel to my collection, thanks Scott! Lionel and MTH are not even close...
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WOW! The original subject seems to be lost and now added posts are all over the spectrum. Was looking to see if there was any updates etc. on original subject.
If anyone hears or reads on any updates on this production of the Krauss Maffei, please start a new post so it won't be lost.
After 2 days, what more could there be? and Scott commented on this thread yesterday so scroll up the page and you'll get the info right from the Mann
nice that these engines now coming.
i hope they will be done without the later added air intake ducting
Cor
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Thought folks might find this picture of the whole batch while still in Germany interesting:
Note the buffer adapter and the lack of rooftop air tanks.
Rusty
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On July 20th, the SP #9010 Krauss Maffei stepped out into the sunlight for the first time in 40 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxaa2FYGR8k
You can order your #9010 right here, right now.
http://www.3rdrail.com/reservation.html#KM
sdmann posted:On July 20th, the SP #9010 Krauss Maffei stepped out into the sunlight for the first time in 40 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxaa2FYGR8k
You can order your #9010 right here, right now.
http://www.3rdrail.com/reservation.html#KM
Scott,
That's the wrong version of the KM. 9010 is the later hood unit version. The model on your link is the original carbody version.
Stuart
Yes you are correct. We are making them as delivered to the SP. Same engine, #9010 but was another engine number back then. That's what we are making.
Scott
The last one around I know of is on the Niles Canyon RR and they are trying to get it running again. It has an interesting history. Don
Southern Pacific 8799 The Camera Car Robert J. Zenk
Machine Age meets Space Age. SP 9010 owes its survival to a groundbreaking late Sixties program by the Southern Pacific railroad: the creation of the first land-based full-motion locomotive cab simulator for crew training. Why a simulator? Traditionally, engineers would train their firemen by allowing them to run trains and gain experience. There were many variables with this time-tested process, not the least of which was the bending of regulations, and the whims of engineers who may or may not have personally cared for their fireman, and vice-versa. In the forward-looking, MBA-driven railroading of the 1960s, management began seeing this procedure as both archaic and a potential liability. SP also regularly plied its stockholders and shippers with advertising messages that the Company was at the cutting edge of transportation and communications, and this program carried built-in bragging rights. The U.S. was also embracing the Computer Age, and simulator technology had advanced greatly from its origins in World War 2 Link Trainers for pilots.
SP was not alone on the pioneering path to a Locomotive Simulator; the competing Santa Fe was in parallel development and deployment of a rail-based Crew Training Simulator -- including a Camera Car of their own -- developed by another prominent aerospace firm, Singer-Link. Yes, that 'Link.'
(More about the Dueling Simulators in the APPENDIX following.) SP 9113 Escapes the Torch. The simulator technology of the time required the use of filmed and projected background plates of the track ahead - 'OTW', or "out the window" in simulator terms. To shoot that motion footage, a suitable camera platform was required. All of the USA Krauss-Maffei locomotives were on borrowed time in late 1968; Southern Pacific had pulled the plug on the diesel-hydraulic experiment earlier in the year. Locomotives would operate until they experienced a major sidelining failure. SP 9113 was among the last of the soldiers, but finally toasted the number nine cylinder assembly of her forward Maybach V-16. It was a fatal injury. SP 9113, the former SP 9010, was stricken from the locomotive roster on September 18, 1968. Shortly after, this forgotten foreigner was chosen as a rolling chassis for the Simulator Project. Here, we see work beginning on the stripping of front end parts in late 1968 -- say, that's a bit of deja vu of how the locomotive looked when the Pacific Locomotive Association acquired it forty years later! |
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