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Some time ago, I posted a thread asking for information on this locomotive.  Many kind forums members replied with information and suggestions (HotWater-thanks for the book suggestion & bob2 for the information), including a few of you who I regularly e-mail with (My new friend Doug-you'll find one someday!).

 

I've added 2 of these locomotives to my collection.  They are outstanding runners and 'glass' smooth at low speed.  Not the best smokers, but I don't use that feature much anyhow.

 

They're difficult to find but infrequently available:  I found one on an auction site-it wasn't as described to say the least.  The second one was found at an estate auction and was NIB (priced accordingly).  Pure luck, only 3rd Rail locomotive in the collection! 

 

There were 250 units made, all released in 2001.  I don't know if that was 2 and 3 rail combined or not.  The 3R version had TMCC and Rail Sounds. Of course, brass construction was standard.

 

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Above: The locomotives are the same black hue, the lighting makes them look different.

 

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Above:  #3900 was the first in the Union Pacific Challenger Class (left).

 

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Above:  Detailed close up of the cab area.

 

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Above:  This is my favorite picture of the pair.  I can almost imagine being track side as they pass.

 

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Above:  For those not familiar, I included a picture of the Fetter's Challenger (on left) and the Jabbleman Challenger (on right).  About the only thing they have in common is the wheel arrangement.

 

The 3rd Rail 'Early Challenger,' as they call it, is an outstanding locomotive even compared to modern standards.  It's construction is top-notch and the large Pittman can motor combined with the massive weight of the model will pull as many scale reefers as you can put behind it.  It's a beautiful model of the Fetter's Challenger that hasn't been done in O Scale 3 rail by any other major manufacturer (Lionel/MTH).  

 

If you find one you won't be disappointed! 

 

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OK Aaron.

 

 Just throw some more salt in that open wound Yes, I WILL get one some day, Un fortunately, my "I'm gonna get me one of those someday" list is VERY LOOOOONG!!!

 

 I did join the 3rd Rail/Sunset club with that (more in my current price range) Union Pacific A-3 Atlantic. Unfortunately, in shipping the bolt holding the front truck on, came out, everything was in the box, but I have FAT fingers, and trying to put it back together, I dropped the washer. I thought that it slipped into the boiler, but all the GENTLE, wiggling and shaking, couldn't get it to come out of hiding.

 

 Just to be sure, I checked my foam cradle, the table and on my hands and knees on the floor looking for that #%&^@! washer no luck, so I haven't even been able to run it yet.

I would have sent you some pics, but it would look awful silly without the front truck.

 

Doug

Congratulations!  I have wondered whether you were successful.  These are indeed great models for the price.  My 2-rail collection includes three prewar Lobaugh Challengers, and soon four Jabelmann Challengers.  I did the new boiler for a thread here a while back.

 

the Sunset Jabelmann Challengers were even better than the Fetters in quality and detail, which is  really going some for a $1200 model.

 

I believe Sunset may have dropped the ball in smaller SP/UP steam, choosing very thin gauge brass.  I would love to send the poster above a washer if I knew what size it was.  Somebody measure one , and I will make a duplicate.

Doug,

When you get the Atlantic fixed, make sure to send the pictures.  You could also post them in the "O Gauge Union Pacific" thread.  Dave and I have been loading it up with UP stuff!  

 

Sounds like bob2 could help you with a replacement part.

 

Dave,

Love the comment about so many it is hard to choose!  I can only imagine the temptations there.  Sure wish I could be there with you.  If you see a VL Challenger, cab #3983, send it my way!

 

Bob,

Sounds like we both have a lot of Challengers lying around.  Some day I'd like to have a Fetter's Challenger with oil tender.

 

I wish Sunset would make some more UP small steamers.  You know, like 4-10-2, 2-10-2, or 4-8-2s.  I'd add those to my collection in a heart beat.

 

Bob2,

 

 I appreciate your offer very much. I did call 3rd Rail/Sunset, and they were going to try to research what washer it was. I need to call them back, they were very nice on the phone, and the Lady got to talking, and I realized later that she never asked for my contact info.

 

 I too would like to see a UP 7000 class 4-8-2, 3rd Rail's SP 2-6-0 is another on my someday list, but their AM-2 4-6-6-2 cab-forward is at/near the top of my someday list.  I agree more small steam would be nice, but I admit that I am a SUCKER for large articulated locomotives, even though I am unlikely to ever have a layout that would do them justice. Unfortunately there just aren't many 3 rail O clubs here way out West.

 

 Though it wont dampen my Enjoyment of the 4-4-2, it is too bad that 3rd rail didn't research the model a bit better, it appears to be a standard simple 4-4-2, while the prototype was a compound 4-4-2. Union Pacific did simple some of these 4-4-2's, the road # they used was not among the simpled  locomotives.

 

 I have the MTH Premier 7 car set of 64' Woodsided Passenger cars, that I bought this locomotive specifically to pull. I will have to post some pics when it gets up-graded to pulling varnish instead of being a lowly 0-4-2.

 

Doug

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