The charge has hit my credit card.
I think Scott said shipping begins this week.
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He said in the email I received they are shipping Wednesday and Friday.
Neal Jeter
Please post sure to post some nice photos when they Do show show up.
Thanks !!!
TrainBub
I received a UPS email last Monday that said it would be here tomorrow, and I would have to sign for them. So far nothing else from UPS so no idea when I need to be here.
I have a NP ABA set that should be arriving tomorrow! I’ll try and post some pics tomorrow night.
Here are some quick photos. Sorry for the mediocre quality, I didn’t have time to whip out the DSLR and instead took these with my iPhone....
In short summary, Another Home Run!
Two minor critiques...
1) the diaphragms lack any play (spring effect), while in some past models (the E8’s & 9’s come to mind) the diaphragms were multi part metal and had some minor flex to them. This allowed for ultra close coupling with short box/length Kadees to the extent that the diaphragms could be butted right up to each other for absolutely no gap between units.
2) I hate to be the one to point this out because it’s one of those “once you see it, you can’t unsee it” kinda things although ever so minor... The gal in charge of the “Main Street of the Northwest” forgot to dot her I’s; but it is the easiest of DIY fixes requiring only the smallest dot of white paint and a very steady hand.
Also, these are my first 3rd rail diesels since the 2nd run PA’s. I’m not sure if this is the first time Kadee mounting brackets have been included, but if so they are a welcome addition to the parts bag! Here we’ve got a bolt on 3RS setup out of the box. Thank you Scott!!!
Finally, to all who have some on the way; you will be absolutely blown away with satisfaction when you unwrap them! And to those who don’t, you’re gonna have a real sore butt from sitting on that fence.
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Can't wait for the video.
Fresh out of the box, have not installed the included hoses, the short couplers and the scale pilot. Not much of an expert on these, but they look good to me. Always put off getting the war bonnet f3s, so finally have a pair. thanks scott
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Why can't Lionel do fixed pilots\? Even with the massive hole for the lobster claw looks 100 times better than a swinging pilot.
@superwarp1 posted:Why can't Lionel do fixed pilots\? Even with the massive hole for the lobster claw looks 100 times better than a swinging pilot.
Could it be the O-31 curve requirement? What is the minimum curve for these? I'm thinking of putting in an order for a possible 2nd run.
@Oman posted:Could it be the O-31 curve requirement? What is the minimum curve for these? I'm thinking of putting in an order for a possible 2nd run.
Well your big scale vision line diesels won't run on 0-31 I would think anyway. These are 0-54 curves and O-72 turnouts which I think has more to do with the way the motor is connected to the trucks than anything to do with the couplers swing. I'll post a video sometime this weekend.
Scott did an amazing job on the F3. I was blown away by the metallic sheen....perfect!
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Why is there glass missing on some of the portholes?
@catnap posted:Why is there glass missing on some of the portholes?
I was just about to ask the same question. I noticed it on a lot of units. Thanks for all the pictures. They all look good, especially the Santa Fe and Northern Pacific.
Donald
@catnap posted:Why is there glass missing on some of the portholes?
I am not sure if this was directed to any of the specific units photographed above but I can say that all portholes on my NP’s have glass in them. In some of the photos I took, they may look like they don’t, but it is really just that the glass is near perfectly clear. Also, I took better photos today and will post them after I have a chance to transfer them off of the camera.
Thanks Big John for the clarification. They are indeed the clearest glass / acrylic I have ever seen in a model train. To me, it looked like the Santa Fe was missing.
Thanks again, looking forward to your new pictures.
Donald
Those are beautiful engines. Looks like they are sold out. In my fleet, I don't own any 3rd rail engines, I am guessing mostly because of the required radius or the fact they are sold out upon delivery. When Kirke was at Just Trains, I purchased one, but my 0-54 and the engines 0-54 did not work, and so I had to return it.
John
@BigJohn&theWork posted:I am not sure if this was directed to any of the specific units photographed above but I can say that all portholes on my NP’s have glass in them. In some of the photos I took, they may look like they don’t, but it is really just that the glass is near perfectly clear. Also, I took better photos today and will post them after I have a chance to transfer them off of the camera.
Thanks for setting the record straight. Taking another look I can see where the glass is so clear that it could give that illusion on all of the models pictured.
Anyhow, these are beautiful models. I especially like the NP's colors.
Here are the N de M F3s
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@catnap posted:Thanks for setting the record straight. Taking another look I can see where the glass is so clear that it could give that illusion on all of the models pictured.
Anyhow, these are beautiful models. I especially like the NP's colors.
But you had to complain first. This is why Scott does not post any pictures of his stuff.
@boilermaker posted:Here are the N de M F3s
That is one of the ones I wanted to order. NdeM get so little love in this hobby and it was an amazing operation considering how creative the road had to be with the finances it had. So glad to see the final photos. Thanks for sharing!
“De nada”
@rdunniii posted:But you had to complain first. This is why Scott does not post any pictures of his stuff.
Ditto ....
On this project I know of two quality control issues one major and the other fairly minor. What they were isn't at all important. What is important is that they were fixed prior to shipping to the customer.
Keep the pictures coming.
@GG1 4877 posted:Ditto ....
On this project I know of two quality control issues one major and the other fairly minor. What they were isn't at all important. What is important is that they were fixed prior to shipping to the customer.
Keep the pictures coming.
Scott emailed me and said that the road number boards on the Erie models weren't right and that he was having the correct ones done and shipped over. He said that they would install them before shipping to me. Can't ask for much more than that. Issues are bound to come up when the models are built on the other side of the planet. Scott does a good job IMHO.
Jonathan,
I didn't realize he called the Erie buyers on that. Very cool. We discussed it when they arrived and luckily it was easily resolved. I hope the rest is done to your satisfaction when they arrive.
Of course I have an AB set of PRR ones coming sometime in 2R. Wish he had done CNJ, I really NEED those more than I need more PRR locomotives, but not the end of the world. 
-Other Jonathan
Erie - Yes, after checking with Jonathan, the number boards remain, it's the number on the sides has A, B, C, D next to them. Waiting on new decals...
Scott
Windows on our Diesels are CNCed from Poly Carbonate, scratch resistant. The same material that eye glass and some cell phone parts are made from. Very clear.
I'll give Jonathan a tip of my hat, for -- again -- getting the complex curvature of the Santa Fe warbonnet stripe perfect!
I sure do like Superwarp's Lightning Stripes, but I'm patiently waiting for my Amtrak rolling stock. 
Sorry GG1....Let me rephrase that Amtrak Viewliner's and Amfleet 
@clem k posted:I sure do like Superwarp's Lightning Stripes, but I'm patiently waiting for my Amtrak rolling stock.
Clem,
I don't think Amtrak F3s will make the second run, not likely for the 3rd run, and not looking good for the 4th!
I have the same dilemma at the moment with all the Amtrak offerings in trying to stay within a reasonable budget on Viewliners, Amfleet, phase III Slumbercoach, and E60s. The ultimate answer will likely not be a reasonable budget....
@GG1 4877 posted:That is one of the ones I wanted to order. NdeM get so little love in this hobby and it was an amazing operation considering how creative the road had to be with the finances it had. So glad to see the final photos. Thanks for sharing!
Well, I see Scott is floating a short F3 second run. We (may?)now will have a nice opportunity to Have a later purchase of what the Budget wouldn't allow for run one. I myself will be considering the NDM F3 for the south Continuation of the MP Eagle.
TrainBub
I sure like my New York Central AA F3 set.Im looking forward to the Alco FA units and the New York Central H10 Mikados
they all look fantastic! Would be nice to see all of them!!!
I want to thank Kevin Garcia for pushing his friends and others to order enough NdeM F3s to put it into production. THANK YOU Kevin.
Scott Mann
Sharp! Hope everyone enjoys them!
I just put this on the 2 rail forum so I thought I would here too. While I'm leaning towards 3RS, I'm not there yet. I do want to mention that 3rd Rail did the correct number boards for the Pennsylvania Railroad's F3s. This had not been done by other manufacturers other than high end brass. 3rd Rail's N de M's F3s also had the streamlined number boards. It looks like I should thank the N de M folks for pushing for their F3 since there may not have been enough PRR orders to do this unique feature.
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@CAPPilot posted:I just put this on the 2 rail forum so I thought I would here too. While I'm leaning towards 3RS, I'm not there yet. I do want to mention that 3rd Rail did the correct number boards for the Pennsylvania Railroad's F3s. This had not been done by other manufacturers other than high end brass. 3rd Rail's N de M's F3s also had the streamlined number boards. It looks like I should thank the N de M folks for pushing for their F3 since there may not have been enough PRR orders to do this unique feature.
Ron,
Originally the concept behind the project was to pick one of the 5 phases of F3 production and make it work for all roads. As is typical with 3rd Rail work, that went out the window fairly soon when we all realized that most of the advertised road names couldn't fall into a single phase. Then the decision was made to produce all but phase I F3s as they have the 3rd porthole in the center of the A units and would be a major tooling change. Finally the project developed into who has done what and when. Since a phase II (early) PRR F3 had not been done it seemed an obvious choice. The big spotting difference as you point out is the FT style number boards. While the PRR didn't own a lot of these early F3s, it was unique enough in the model world to make this choice. PRR would go on to buy lots of F3s in all phases up and through the model transition to the F7. For anyone who cares to know more, the late phase II F3 introduced the short roof fans that would continue through F9 production. These early ones share the same fan design as the FT as well.
Glad you are happy with them! This was a fun project.
Now it's into tooling for GP7/9s and there is a lot of variation on those as well especially anyone who wants a version of the flattened long hood of the GP7 which was common to CNJ, B&M, and CNW. You won't likely see those in O anytime again.
Speaking of phase 1 F3’s, I sure would be in for several in ACL should you decide to produce this model.It never hurts to hope, as Scott has fulfilled several of my wishes with the E6’s and E7’s recently released.
Leon
The problem I think for 3rd Rail is Atlas already made F3 Ph 1 units. Atlas actually called them F2/F3 Ph 1 engines. And as Jonathan said, they have different bodies than the rest of the F3 line.
