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Originally Posted by RJT:

Some of the speed restrictions may be due to the pounding that steam puts on the rails. Maybe modern road beds are not built to hold up under it.

 Modern steam locomotives like the 765 or 611 do not pound the rails. Many railroad crews that have ridden aboard the 765 have commented that it rides better than most GEs. Some guys on the 765 crew claim the loco rides better than our tool car. 

 

Secondly, main line track today is much stronger than the right of ways of the 40s and 50s. Todays main lines are mostly welded rail and built to handle 315,000 pound freight cars. A "heavy" car in the steam era was HALF that weight.

Last edited by Rich Melvin
Originally Posted by joseywales:

stupid question..why not restore the 1218?..she was in the middle of restoration until the steam program was halted in late 90's..I saw both of them close and personal..both ran excurtion there Erie pa and stopped in Erie to pickup people..they stopped 1 block away from where id used to live at..got to ride in the cab of the 611 on one run.. loved it..

 


Well the 1218 would be better suited for operation in certain areas as opposed to the 611.  And she was mid rebuild when NS cancelled the program and while she is the last "A" I think the 611 has the following, she is the icon for many.  Plus I think there is just flat out more work involved with the 1218 vs. the 611 as the 1218 is essentially an empty shell and 611 is complete.  And I would imagine operating expenses would be another factor.

Originally Posted by jaygee:

  IIRC, 1218 would have to be nearly gutted anyway to get her to the new regs.

True,but its alot easier to remove and rebuild or remanufacture old parts than to open up an empty boiler and try to figure out whats missing. I'm not sure how any prints are still around for the class A boiler construction.

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