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Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

 I wonder if the guy in the diesel was in reverse adding to the load.

More load would probably have helped the Fireman a lot, producing a lot less smoke. Plus, doubt that there is an "Engineer" in the diesel anyway, since NKP 765 does have an MU Control Box in its cab, so the Engineer can remotely control the trailing diesel.

Originally Posted by Allan Miller:

Actually, that's the Heritage diesel.  I believe Rich told me that there will be a Heritage diesel behind the 765 on all of their NS-sponsored trips.

Perhaps true, but I've also been told by what I presumed were knowledgeable sources that steamers were not allowed on main routes without a diesel backup in the consist.  Perhaps that's one reason why they added the Heritage locomotive.

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

Perhaps true, but I've also been told by what I presumed were knowledgeable sources that steamers were not allowed on main routes without a diesel backup in the consist.  Perhaps that's one reason why they added the Heritage locomotive.

Are you talking strictly about the NS?  

 

Because that is certainly not the case on the UP, plus I though I saw photos & videos of the NS 21st Century Steam Program with former SRR #630 handling excursion trains WITHOUT any diesel assistance/back-up.

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:
I've also been told by what I presumed were knowledgeable sources that steamers were not allowed on main routes without a diesel backup in the consist.  Perhaps that's one reason why they added the Heritage locomotive.

 

Well, your sources may be knowledgeable about many things, but on this particular subject, with regard to NS, they're 100% wrong, and Hot Water is 100% right.

 

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:
Perhaps true, but I've also been told by what I presumed were knowledgeable sources that steamers were not allowed on main routes without a diesel backup in the consist.  Perhaps that's one reason why they added the Heritage locomotive.
 
Also Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

I realize they just have to tow the diesel along in case the steamer breaks down on any major route.

Wrong on both counts. The diesel is there for "show" and to stretch the coal on the longer deadheads.

 

The 765 will probably run the trips out of Williamson this coming weekend without the NKP unit in the consist. We left it in the train in Toledo because it was very tough to switch it out there and then get it back in the consist on Sunday evening. There's not a lot of room to work at Homestead Yard in Toledo.

 

We also used the 8100 to move the train around the 18-degree curve on the wye at Maumee. Using the 8100 to pull the 765 backwards around a sharp curve like that is a little better than using the 765 under her own power. 18-degrees is a VERY sharp curve. 20 degrees is the 765's limit.

Last edited by Rich Melvin

Great video. The voice over was very entertaining. Wasn't aware the 765 was "headed to West Virginia to go into a museum". WOW the guy shooting the video was very knowledgeable. Sure was a lot of work to rebuild the old girl just to turn around and retire her. Wonder if someone has broken the news to Rich, yet.... BTW, that is a nice spare tire you got handing off the back of that water canteen, Rich. I am assuming that the auxiliary tender was used behind the N&W 1218?

 

Gilly

 

Kidding about the museum guys, just kidding. Don't shoot me!!!

Last edited by Gilly@N&W

It never ceases to amaze me how much misinformation gets out to the general public about events like this. We were headed to West Virginia all right, but we certainly aren't going to put her into a museum! Wow. The 765 is resting quietly in Williamson, WV as I write this, with the fire banked for the rest of the week.

 

The A-tank was used in the former NS steam program behind both 611 and 1218.

 

As for the smoke...

 Hey Rich .

  Thanks for sharing your time and talking while passing thru the passenger cars today in Williamson. Sorry we didn't have time to speak longer. I took your picture with my little niece on the train today.

 

  I had a great time sharing the experience with fellow co-workers and my wife son Casey and his girlfriend Hope.

 

 Thanks for you and your crew Rich you guys did a stellar job !

 

      

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