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I wanted to explain where my dream of love for trains started, but in order to do that, I have to pay respect to the man that I knew as my uncle for all my life. My Uncle Dick passed away suddenly on October 22, which was a big surprise. I won't get into details because that is not what this is about exactly. I could have popped this in the traditional, but figured it would be better suited here because it is more about the photos than being narrowed to one category alone.

So, my uncle was born in what most call the best time of trains, the Postwar Era. My grandfather bought the first train(s) from the hired farmhand Hans for his son. While I cannot tell you exactly what it was, it gave birth to his love for trains. My uncle collected trains much like we all do, we love the way they look, love the way the sound, and whatever action we can create with them.

So, how does this pertain to me, the way any kid would be with someone operating trains at any given social family event. While the rare occasion would have a few runs during the normal calendar year, Christmas was of course the World Series of things for any kid. Nothing more could be true than running upstairs to see my uncle pop on the switch to his ZW, green light go, and pull that paddle. Off raced whatever trains he would be running.

We would be upstairs at Christmas in between dinner and opening presents, as us kids needed to be occupied for a while and settle down apparently, trains will solve that. Hardly, "run this one next please", may be heard. "Could you get the milkman going?", someone may ask. What little time between dinner and presents was a world away from it all, trains everywhere you could imagine. Moreover, what was new uncle?

My sister had asked me if I could come up with some information regarding my late uncle's trains, being that I was the one that probably knew quite a bit. I told her that I knew some things, but there was no way I would be able to give her the good on the majority of what he had, no way at all. So, I did the best I could, being that I do have an excellent memory.

I started jotting things down in an email, starting with the main things everyone should remember. Ah, Pennsy S2 Turbine, #671, yeah, Uncle Dick always started with that one. The engine had white from all the smoke pellets it ate way back when. He'd run that around a good while. Time for a change, up pops the Santa Fe Warbonnet passenger set. I cannot tell you how many times it ran, or even what the number was on the units. The Texas Special would be changed in sometimes, but not very often as the Santa Fe was King Diesel. The Fairbanks/Morse Virginian, yeah, the colorful beast would pop on the rails too. Some other engines would definitely be run, but the #671 dominated the rails almost every time.

I had to make sure my sister knew about the accessories. So, first off, the Milkman and the stand where he ejected the milk cans too. The Operating Sawmill was one of the newer things that came later, but look at the log get made into planks of wood. The Oil Derrick bubbling in the background, pumping much needed fuel somewhere that cannot be seen. Those cows look like they're ready to be loaded in the cattle car. Where are they going? Oh, right back into the corral, they'll be okay there. The operating mail car much like the milkman, though the mail would get launched way off where it was supposed to land for some reason. The coal elevator(or conveyor) which would spill tons more coal outside than getting it into the car. Operating News Stand, Operating Freight Station, Operating Flagman, Beacon, where does it all end? Oh, the icing on the cake, Hobo being chased by the Cop. Once popped behind #671 with them running about the place, found a better spot in the yard where the action could be seen better.

Lionel, American Flyer, Ives, Marx, Uncle Dick knew them all and new them well. A collection of books used to sit by his chair long ago with the engines of old(Lionel books V1, V2) looking sharply waiting to be read. With so much of my memory seeing all these things that I haven't seen in what seems like ages, it is good to have them come bubbling up much like the Oil at the Oil Derrick. So, here is the man I knew as the trainman, the dream weaver if you will.

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Last year being honored.

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This past summer in July catching the local Trenton Thunder game.

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This I don't know when it is from but I knew exactly where this is. This is my grandparents house(now a museum) at the dining room table. My sister asked why are the trains on it? I don't know, but why shouldn't they be, eh? I believe in front of my uncle(striped shirt) is an American Flyer bridge, I don't know what one though. You have the Flagman, crossing gate in the foreground, Beacon back by my uncle, barn and some sort of tinplate station to the left it looks like, but I can't be sure. I know he had some old Railroad Crossing signs, I believe Lionel, that weren't on the layout back during my childhood, but I don't see any there. Hey, the girder bridge is in the back as well.

In closing, who started your dream of trains? What was the most memorable thing or things that come to mind when you think of this person and what they started for you? I don't know what other questions are waiting to be rattling out of my mind tonight, but I do need to eat something.

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@Sean007 posted:

Dave - really cool story and thanks for sharing it.

I suppose that one day I should get mine on paper.

So, what happened to Uncle Dick's trains?

As far as I know, they are still in the attic at his house. What is to become of them is unknown at this time. There is so much that remains unanswered, and the trains are all in that.

I made this post not just for me, but for anyone else to share their inspiration. So feel free to post here anything that comes to mind, even if you have to rewrite. I did that last week in sending stuff to my sister.

Great story Dave! You really captured the electricity at the intersection of trains, family, and growing up. I understand your post very well and I'm glad you shared. This is an excellent topic!

My grandparents lit the match by buying me a Lionel starter set for Christmas one year. But they didn't stop there! Grandparents from both sides of the family would happily spend time driving me around what remained of the steel mills in Youngstown, driving me to construction sites to watch machines work, and driving me to the hobby shop. I most often think about the first two things. We really were just going to see what was going on. Getting in the car to see what's new around town is something that really stuck with me and has shaped a major part of my life. It still brings me tremendous joy to get in the car with no particular place to go. I loved doing that with my dog when I was having a bad time and now I love doing it with my wife. She gets it and loves to see what we can find as well. But that bumming around is what I think of most when I think about my grandparents. It meant the world to me then and it means a lot to me now. It's also how I get a lot of ideas for my current model railroad

Great topic!

@BillYo414

Bill, great story, and yes, this is what this post is for. I want more people to share here just because it is a great thing in my opinion. We all have great stories that we may not even know we have until we think a bit more about it.

So, last night what I did after composing the above post was send it over to my sister, explaining to her about the picture in black and white that she sent was what caused my writer's block to be broken. I had been thinking about posting on here last week, but I could not get anything to come out, that picture was the spark. What was really great is that she in turn sent my post over to the pastor that was doing the service for my uncle today, which I didn't know until after the repast.

We all shared some stories today about our beloved uncle, brother, cousin, father and friend. My sister had gone first, when she finished, she said, "Waiting for someone to talk about the trains..." I did not go until about the fourth or fifth person. It is funny to someone outside the train world or train industry to here these old engines above be talked about. "#671, S2 Turbine steam locomotive", I began. A couple of slight giggles because some cannot remember what that is exactly. I basically used what I recalled, as well as what is printed above to relay the tales of Uncle Dick's trains. I did him good by explaining everything out loud describing each item for all to hear. I am loud by nature, so there is no chance anyone did not hear me.

When my sister and I were chatting outside the restaurant after the repast, she asked me, "If I go look at that link again, will it show me if anything new has happened?" I said yes, and in fact a few people have commented already. She had not looked since I sent it to her last night when it was just my comment. So, all of you, with your comments are being heard by my sister as well as my one aunt. I don't know if my aunt has read it as I didn't provide the context to the link in the message I sent her, I was hoping to get a chance to talk to her at the repast. I will message her tomorrow at some point after she gets home in Virginia. She is my uncle's younger sister as all of his three other sister's were older than him.

Use this post for your own inspiration whomever you are. Again, thank you all.

It never dawned on me until now - it was an 'Uncle' that made me get the 'bug' too! Both he and my Dad were WW2 vets and they had married 2 sisters. My Dad had me but my Uncle never had a child until 6 years after I was born, so I was the kid to entertain for him. My Dad and another uncle had started a collection of Lionel things to put under the tree (they were NOT 'collectables' - just Lionels that you put out and played with!

But my 'other' uncle, he was a modeler - and he built an HO layout that could be folded up and out of the way, much like a ping-pong table. And, as a 'modeler, he bought kits and built them - specifically, a Varney F-7 Pennsy set (raw metal - he painted them and added the decals!) AND a Penny 0-6-0 shifter (also painted by him and added decals).

One night my parents had a night out and left me with my Uncle and aunt. Had a fine evening and off to sleep I went. When I awoke in the morning, Uncle Joe had assembled the entire layout and had the '0-6-0' shifter pulling a consist of hand-built freight cars, and the F-7s' had another consist of home-assembled freight cars. It was a 'Christmas Morning' and it wasn't even Christmas!

THAT was what 'infected me' with 'the disease!'

Thanks for sharing your memory - and shaking mine!!

One of my favorite details involves my poor grandpa. The guy had arthritis like a zebra has stripes. He had two hip replacements and needed to get his knees done so he walked with a cane. He was an avid photographer too and had a nice camera with lenses. Well I had to be about 9 or 10 years old I guess. I wanted to build a common gable roof mill building. They had a certain look and proportion to them and I couldn't replicate it. I was explaining my dilemma to my grandpa and he said "you just need some pictures to work off of".

And so we got in his car with his camera and went down to the old Republic Steel mills near Center Street Bridge in Youngstown. Some of the buildings there sit perpendicular to the road. He parked the car. With cane in hand, camera around his neck, he climbed a loose dirt hill of about 15 feet in height and snapped some pictures for me. It's one of my favorite memories of him. I think the pictures are still at my parent's house. They're just ordinary looking pictures to anybody who might look at them but the story behind them inspires me to be like him.

It's good that you spoke up. Stories like what you shared definitely make people happier and ease the grieving process in my experience. This is especially true if it's something that only a few people knew about the person. It's comforting to know how happy someone was and the positive effects they had on others.

You're competing with @Arnold D. Cribari now for quality threads haha

@BillYo414 posted:

One of my favorite details involves my poor grandpa. The guy had arthritis like a zebra has stripes. He had two hip replacements and needed to get his knees done so he walked with a cane. He was an avid photographer too and had a nice camera with lenses. Well I had to be about 9 or 10 years old I guess. I wanted to build a common gable roof mill building. They had a certain look and proportion to them and I couldn't replicate it. I was explaining my dilemma to my grandpa and he said "you just need some pictures to work off of".

And so we got in his car with his camera and went down to the old Republic Steel mills near Center Street Bridge in Youngstown. Some of the buildings there sit perpendicular to the road. He parked the car. With cane in hand, camera around his neck, he climbed a loose dirt hill of about 15 feet in height and snapped some pictures for me. It's one of my favorite memories of him. I think the pictures are still at my parent's house. They're just ordinary looking pictures to anybody who might look at them but the story behind them inspires me to be like him.

It's good that you spoke up. Stories like what you shared definitely make people happier and ease the grieving process in my experience. This is especially true if it's something that only a few people knew about the person. It's comforting to know how happy someone was and the positive effects they had on others.

You're competing with @Arnold D. Cribari now for quality threads haha

Bill, my sister sent me a message this morning since she can check up on this topic. She told me that you had her tearing up with the story about your grandfather taking pictures. She told me, "Tell him he should get those pictures." The reason is as you said, some people would just think it is an ordinary picture, but to you it is so much more. It is a story of you and your grandfather that you can tell everyone that you think should know. Yesterday when we were sharing stories, I had told my cousin that there are a few stories that I will only tell family, not out in public. Not that they are bad stories, just that they are more personal stories of who my uncle was.

As far as competing with Arnold, heck I don't know. I doubt I post enough thought filled topics here. Sure I do post a bit, but I do far more replies than anything else. Just look at any one of Pat's posts and you will see that I reply almost two to three times on any of those. I do welcome Arnold to put his two cents here as I am sure he does have a really good story or two.

@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 I understand about sharing details on the open Internet. There is more to my story of getting into trains and it's funny how things worked out but it's a bit more than I care to share for the whole world to read. I will grab the photos. I'm in the process of digitizing all my family photos so I'll get to them.

I just meant this is a very thought provoking subject that provoke many different reactions from people. Some people may find this helpful to work through how they're feeling. I find it bringing me a lot of joy to look back on people that had a large impact on my life. Arnold's posts have similar tendencies. It's a good thing!

@BillYo414

Exactly Bill, I didn't mean you needed to share anything more on your own story here, but with family or whomever later in your own life.

Some of my own personal experiences with my uncle mean a lot more to us than the public at large would be able to understand. I had talked about his work ethic, how he would be able to work other people under the table so to speak. Where he worked they had always hired college students for the summer, and these students would be assigned working with him. They would not be able to keep up with him, a man twenty plus years or more. My one aunt talked about how strong he was, which some of us knew but probably not as well. He did track and field which makes sense, shotput and the like. She had said he hurled a drive shaft like a javelin some good distance. We all could see him doing it, but a drive shaft is not a javelin. Just some of the most interesting things you know.

Like many others, for me it was trains at Christmas. My dad had a 1940 Lionel set with PRR-type 2-6-2 "torpedo" steamer with 3 former Ives cars, still numbered in the 1690 series as Ives did. He also owned the cars only from his original 1932 Winner Lines freight set--also former Ives. He burned out the engine somehow, and traded it in on the 1940 set. He told me he got the $6.95 1940 set for $2.00 with the trade-in (he was 16 at the time). My older sister had a Marx freight set, given to her by our maternal grandfather at age 1. He was an American Flyer S-gauge man himself. I was told he would have given me an awesome set myself, but he passed when I was 6 weeks old.

Other than these three sets, the only other car we had was an S-scale 3-rail American Flyer whistling baggage car that was so heavy, and took so much voltage to run, that my dad would set it up on its own track. Otherwise, the train would slow to a crawl if you tried to blow the whistle. Nevertheless, he had spent other funds to convert his former Lionel/Ives passenger train to American Flyer trucks with automatic couplers.

Originally, Dad set up the trains. I don't know when I took over, but it was certainly by age 12. We had 12 or so switches and a lot of O-27 track, so we could make a good-sized layout that could run more than one train. Even before I took over, the layout was far too elaborate to be around the tree, and another location was found for it.

At one point, I convinced my dad to buy the Big Rail Work Train by Marx for $25, giving us a third train. A cousin who didn't want his train anymore also gave us a Marx freight set.

That die-cast Lionel engine was so much nicer than anything else we owned, it was our premier piece in my young opinion.

We didn't have much in the way of accessories--a Marx crossing bell and lighted American flyer station platform. We also had a wood station platform my dad made as a youth and an illuminated sign he made that said "Eat at Joe's."

Then, as a teenager, I saw the most amazing toy train ever. My scoutmaster had been given at age two 1940 set 291W: a 226E 2-6-4 with 2900-series semi-scale PRR box, Shell tank, and NYC caboose. I had practically drooled over this set in may dad's old 1940 Lionel catalog, and to see one for real was amazing.

With all my love of trains, I was never given a train of my own. I've more than made up for that since.

I've already mentioned my maternal grandfather's American Flyer layout, but my dad told me about HIS father's modeling as a young person: a switching layout--all wood. Instead of metal rails, pieces of wood inside the wheel gauge, with moving pieces to allow cars to be switched from one track to another. Trains not powered, but real operation in any case. I never saw this layout.

So I'm a 3rd generation modeler on both sides. I now own both my late father's trains, the handful of American Flyer pieces left from my maternal grandfather, and the beloved 291W set from my old scoutmaster (purchased). These never run on my big basement layout, but they still come out at Christmastime to circuit the tree.

Well like many others, I had my start young.  The first picture (yes that's me) is from 1946 when I was 2 and as you can see my only train was a "Donald Duck" push toy but all that was about to change.

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By 1947, My Dad and Grandfather (we lived in a two family house then - us upstairs and my Grandparents down) conspired that I should have a toy train (I am not sure who wanted it more them or me in fact I suspect given the choice at the time I would have taken a pony!!) And so they got this Lionel set.  It was the #671 steam turbine, a dump car, and a great crane with a work caboose that had a light.  We had the gateman of course and the rest of the scenery were those little carboard houses covered in "snow" that were made in Japan and sold in every 5 and dime in the US.   I loved that train and it was the start of it for me. 
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Well we would likely have always lived in that house except for one thing...we were between a RR track that set the border on a nice little park...to nice to survive the 50's and President Eisenhower sent the NJ Turnpike right down our street...good by house.  It is interesting, I rode the Turnpike for many years as an adult later and our street was the only one in the neighborhood affected.  the houses that we shared a backyard with were still there up until the 1980's.  But out of this, my parents (after a huge financial struggle) managed to buy a 4 room house (2 bedrooms, 1 eat-in kitchen, 1 living room) but this house had a BASEMENT!  So Dad and I began to build our "Empire".  We added stuff until about 1957 and then (OH NO!) I was still interested in trains, Lionel was not very realistic, so I sold the Lionel and went into HO.  Then came a break as the HO went into storage during HS and college and although i still have it, I doubt its run since that time.  However, I did get married and have 2 sons so about 1970 I decided THEY needed some trains (sound familiar) and so Lionel came back into our lives ( actually 1 Lionel set (steam) and 1 Marx set (diesel switcher) )  The rest as they say is history.  I am now 80, have several rooms full of trains (interestingly despite my efforts neither of my boys took to trains post their teen years) and am wondering what to do with them...but I still love them, collect them, run them, take pictures of them, and continue to post on the forum.

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Don

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