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I recently unpacked ~50 diecast vehicles to photograph prior to listing them for sale here on the forum.  Long story short, I ended up taking photos of them two-at-a-time for the most part using some notion of grouping like items together. 

 

So, I ended up with two 1932 Ford delivery trucks (as identified on their chassis) and placed them side-by-side to photograph.  I was surprised that although they were both stated to be 1/43 models, there was a noticeable difference in their size.  How can this be?

 

I recall reading on the forum that there is no true "scale" when it comes to 1/43 diecast models; at least not in the same sense that we often use the term.

 

I took some more pictures of the two trucks; and, since I've recently acquired a digital caliper ($6.00 shipped on Amazon), measured the trucks.  First the measurements (My dimensional data/columns keep shifting despite editing and correcting):

 

           YELLOW        WHITE

Wheel base length:          70.47          64.00

Wheel base width:           37.30          40.44

Roof length:                   65.25          55.16

Roof width:                    33.30          28.32

 

(Notes:  All measurements are mm; and, the roof is used because it was the easiest body dimension to measure for length and width.)

 

And here are the photos: 

         

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The Mobiloil truck is by ELIGOR and the W-D truck is by Ertl.  It's been an interesting exercise to confirm that in 1/43 diecast models, "scale" means whatever the manufacturer desires.  Which is not wholly unlike the use of "scale" in our "O scale" trains.

 

NOTE:  I have given up, after five attempts, to edit the dimensional data into nice columns.  The numbers are now cooperating, but the "Yellow" and "White" words defy correction. 

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I edited the original post by stating both are identified as 1932 Fords.  As for different models of the same basic truck (e.g. a Suburban and a Tahoe), I couldn't say since I know nothing about Ford's 1932 product line. 

 

The differences noted in the grilles are lost on me; probably, because one is painted and the other is chrome.

 

And I agree, they are nice models and they soon will be on the For Sale forum along with other period fire equipment, sedans, sports cars, etc.

The Ertl is the more true model in this case. 

A lot of generic companies make a much larger vehicle and call it 1/43. I do not buy those generic company models. 

Now more the case you will find much runtier models that state 1/43. These smaller model molds have been passed around and sold under different name brands. But they are usually the ones that come in a plastic display case.

I do have quite a few of those however in my extensive collection. If you keep then with their prospective models they can mix in somewhat acceptably. 

Models of two different real vehicles. Neither one perfect.....both OK for a layout.

One is the car based sedan delivery the other the truck based delivery. I have a poster of just the different models of cars in 1932. There was something like 12 different car bodies in '32.  Not like today where we have 1 or 2.

See this photo.....looks like the larger truck.

I am pretty sure it's two different vehicles.

As AMCDave notes, Ford made different sizes of panel trucks...the small one, I think in

pickup version, was considered only a 1/4 ton, not even 1/2 ton, and a Model B.  While the one Dave  has pictured is at least a year earlier (1931) on the one ton chassis, designated as a Model AA ((note those heavy duty stamped steel wheels vs. the almost always seen wire wheels of a model A (1928-31) or B(1932)).   The other problem might be that what Ford sold in Europe was bodied differently.  I have noticed one Eligor model I pass on because the body was distinctly different than anything on U.S. roads.  And there is a third problem......styling on Ford vehicles sold abroad sometimes

was a previous design, and not the current model, as though they were using up old

parts on the foreign market.

It is simply China based companies falsely marketing their item.

For instance I have three 69 Chargers by three different makers. Two are true, one is not.

My vette collection has 4 size configurations from 6 different brands, all were sold as 1/43. Three brands are true, two brands are from that runtie die cast mold and one brand is the over sized version. The one over sized car I only accept because it is of a model year that none of the others made.

Originally Posted by AMCDave:

Models of two different real vehicles. Neither one perfect.....both OK for a layout.

One is the car based sedan delivery the other the truck based delivery. I have a poster of just the different models of cars in 1932. There was something like 12 different car bodies in '32.  Not like today where we have 1 or 2.

See this photo.....looks like the larger truck.

I am pretty sure it's two different vehicles.

It is.  Like you say, they had car-based and truck-based vehicles.  you paid your money and took your choice.  I am not sure the two are scale, or to the same scale, but they look good enough that in the right place they would not look out of place on my layout.  

It's also possible that the Eligor model is a European prototype. I have been told that my Solido Fords are based on a French Ford prototype and that's why they are different from other 1:43 Fords; maybe that's also the case for the Eligor delivery vehicle. 

 

I don't worry about it; I have several each of the Ertl, Eligor, and Solido Fords and I just avoid putting them next to each other on the layout. 

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