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Just read the news about a fatal train crash on the border between South Australia and New South Wales (out in our vast countryside) where the engine driver (engineer) and his assistant (conductor) were killed in a level crossing (grade crossing) collision with a semi-trailer (tractor/trailer).

Both men in the cab were killed, but the fool driving the semi trailer escaped serious injury. The semi driver was in his seventies (my age) and should have known better.

A very sad day, for the last day in 2023.

https://www.9news.com.au/natio...71-897e-4da1b051709b

Peter.....Buco Australia

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@Buco posted:

Just read the news about a fatal train crash on the border between South Australia and New South Wales (out in our vast countryside) where the engine driver (engineer) and his assistant (conductor) were killed in a level crossing (grade crossing) collision with a semi-trailer (tractor/trailer).

Both men in the cab were killed, but the fool driving the semi trailer escaped serious injury. The semi driver was in his seventies (my age) and should have known better.

A very sad day, for the last day in 2023.

https://www.9news.com.au/natio...71-897e-4da1b051709b

Peter.....Buco Australia

Stupidity knows no bounds, grade crossings sometimes I think are natures way of culling the herd.thos time is was the wrong people.  even with four gates here in the United States. Idiots find the way to get hit by a train. Grade crossings and suicides are what I would fear the most when I was running over the road.



Let’s hope the new year brings some brains to the planet

Last edited by ThatGuy
@Buco posted:

Just read the news about a fatal train crash on the border between South Australia and New South Wales (out in our vast countryside) where the engine driver (engineer) and his assistant (conductor) were killed in a level crossing (grade crossing) collision with a semi-trailer (tractor/trailer).

Both men in the cab were killed, but the fool driving the semi trailer escaped serious injury. The semi driver was in his seventies (my age) and should have known better.

A very sad day, for the last day in 2023.

https://www.9news.com.au/natio...71-897e-4da1b051709b

Peter.....Buco Australia

My heart goes out to the families of the train crew. My son is an engineer and has had several incidents. Thankfully it’s been the drunks and idiots that bought it in each case. I look forward to his text or call each afternoon.

Sad day it is, indeed.  Over years, others aboard locomotives have been killed due to the negligence of others, while others aboard a locomotive have caused a wreck and survived it.  Personally, I always believed that if it was my time, then there would be no choice.  But my luck always held out.  I survived several train/auto crashes (on the locomotive, of course) and another train on an adjacent track had a major derailment just as we approached, piling up cars all around us and leaving our locomotive on top of a freight car, leaning.  Any of that could have resulted in my own death.

It's too bad that these two had their day this way.  When there is a train collision, you never can tell what will result after the dust settles.  May they rest in peace and may their families find peace, eventually.

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@Buco posted:

Just read the news about a fatal train crash on the border between South Australia and New South Wales (out in our vast countryside) where the engine driver (engineer) and his assistant (conductor) were killed in a level crossing (grade crossing) collision with a semi-trailer (tractor/trailer).

Both men in the cab were killed, but the fool driving the semi trailer escaped serious injury. The semi driver was in his seventies (my age) and should have known better.

A very sad day, for the last day in 2023.

https://www.9news.com.au/natio...71-897e-4da1b051709b

Peter.....Buco Australia

I had my share of close calls, but in the end I still think the worse for a crew is a suicide you see it coming and there is nothing you can do…….i still see the girls face that day.

‘’for this crew the they paid the ultimate sacrifice for an idiot, plain and simple.

my thoughts and prayers got to the family and friends. The driver of the truck should be brought up on charges.

Last edited by ThatGuy

Just an update with some results of the tragic train incident. I'm not calling it an "accident", as this could have been so easily avoided!!!!!

Looks like the truck driver (75yrs old, and from my native state - Queensland) tried to "beat the train" with his "B Trippel" rig.....yeh, we have three long semi trailers running behind the prime mover (tractor). He got the cab and the front (first) trailer across the line, but the loco hit the second and third trailers. That explains why the truck driver didn't die!!

https://www.9news.com.au/natio...d1-dffe-4e7c-b3da-43

Thank you all for your thoughts and prayers......the families of both drivers (engineers) should not have to go through such a devastating ordeal.

PS. The truck driver has been charged and, if found guilty, will probably spend the rest of his life locked-up....and for something that could have been so easily avoided. I know from experience how hard and how long it takes to get a truck/rig of that size and length moving again, after bringing it to a complete stop, but that is exactly what you have to do when you come to a level (grade) crossing, with a train in plain sight, and lights flashing and bells ringing!!!!!

Peter.....Buco Australia.   

Apparently my initial reply to Peter got ixnayed out of existance, probably because @Buco and I frequent the tinplate area of the forum and initially the news was posted there

So I have reposted it here for anyone wanting to see the actual area and get an idea of what Peter and I found to be so incompetent it could not be classed as an "accident"



"The same right back at you Peter @Buco

Yes terrible thing in South Australia , no-one ever deserves not to come home safe after a day of work

I have actually driven( or ridden in reality on my motorbike)  that road and remember the crossing ... This is an accident that never needed to happen .. INCREDIBLE visibility in ALL directions , numerous painted road warnings  AND controlled by bells and flashers !!!

10:30 AM so no way in **** the truck driver can use sunglare as an excuse ... for our International Friends here is exactly where this crash occurred on google maps

https://www.google.com/maps/@-...384!8i8192?entry=ttu

How you could not see a double high container stacked nearly 2 Kilometer long train approaching here is just boggling ... Truck driver was 75 apparently , and the fact he has been arrested and charged publicly so quickly , pretty much confirms the Police are just as boggled as I am with his actions ...

This article shows the height of the train and the carnage ... RIP Pacific National drivers .. this should NEVER have happened !"

Edit ... I have ridden this road on my motorbike before , and its very open flat country , the crossing is marked with no less than THREE signs erected as far as 500 metres out and a full road lane painted train crossing as well as being fitted with lights and bells at the crossing , one sign 200+ metres out ALSO has flashing red lights built in to it ... this is unforgivable negligence on the part of the truck driver

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Thoughts and prayers to the crew’s family. That is very tragic.

Fatman, Thanks for the Google earth link. You are 100% correct that there is no excuse for the truck driver. That has to be a top 10 grade crossing - on the planet- as far as visibility is concerned.

As a daily commuter on trains in and out of Chicago I have unfortunately been witness to way too many of these situations. I always say a prayer for the engineers here who have to witness these accidents from the cab. Unfortunately, we have occurrences like these on a very regular basis.

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