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Hello, I have a 10 x 20 layout using an Mth 4000 transformer, going to a TIU ( also have a AIU Attached) both Fixed spots are used one for each level of the layout. I am adding a separate yard to the layout powered by my old Lionel KW transformer. with a quick fuse. I have an insulated track where the track meets the track from the 4000. I believe I hooked up the KW which also has a separate TIU (2nd on the remote)  attached to it. I checked for polarity by attached a wire from my KW U post to a black lead from my Mth 4000, with a meter I'm getting 17 volts with both transformers on. So I am assuming they are in Phase.

Problem: when I run an engine from the original track to the new yard area, it seems to work fine. However when I run any engine from the yard area back to the main layout, I lose control of the engines I cannot direct them or shut them down. Have to turn off power at transformer, then I have to reinstate engine, as it says "Engine not on Track". I'm not an electrician, or near one. Is my new TIU an issue, or electric hook up or my electrical non knowledge. Should I be running a black lead from the 4000 transformer itself to the KW directly rather then picking up a track lead?

I'm lost to figure it out, the reason I'm building this yard is also I have an Atlas turntable on order, which I'm trying to get all this resolved.

Thank you for listening

Leeg

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"I checked for polarity by attached a wire from my KW U post to a black lead from my Mth 4000, with a meter I'm getting 17 volts with both transformers on. So I am assuming they are in Phase."

Transformers that are correctly wired in phase will indicate zero volts difference between their hot output terminals, when their common terminals are connected together and their hot outputs are set to equivalent voltages.  It's hard for me to understand exactly how you have them wired, but getting a reading of 17 volts between two hot outputs does not sound correct.

The output of transformers is A.C.  There is no "polarity" in A-C circuits. There is in D-C circuits. Not being familiar with some of the newer power supplies, could you tell me if any of the outputs you are using supply D.C.?

Assuming the transformers are phased correctly, my understanding is that when you have a layout powered by more than one TIU, you can experience control issues when you try to run an engine that was "programmed" by or into one TIU and then trying to operate that engine on trackage controlled by the second (or third, fourth, etc.) TIU.

I don't know for sure if that is your issue, but if it is, the solution is to set both TIU's to operate in Super TIU Mode.   

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