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This post is a curiosity question, potentionally serious.

 

I have been using CA glue to connect the HOD PRR catenary insulators into 10 & 3 packs for use.  I am close to 5000 at this time. 

 

Over the last week or two I have been running the exhaust fan to eliminate the odor.  I began because of the goop I was coughing up the next morning.  Since using the exhaust fan, I only have gross nasal mucus.  I only do about 35-50 units a nite before fingers give out. 

 

My question is  Is this stuff harmful and should I and others using CA glue be using a respirator or am I overreacting?

 

I would appreciate any input and I am asking on the forum, because there are many people posting here with varied life experiences and who knows what I may find out. 

 

Does anyone know what is correct?

 

mikeg

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Originally Posted by PRRTrainguy:

 

I have been using CA glue to connect the HOD PRR catenary insulators into 10 & 3 packs for use.  I am close to 5000 at this time. 

 

My question is  Is this stuff harmful and should I and others using CA glue be using a respirator or am I overreacting?

 

You certainly seem to be over-exposing yourself to CA - whether that's an allergic reaction or simply the reaction of CA fumes with your nasal / sinuses is difficult to deconvolute.

 

You really need to avoid inhaling the CA fumes whether passively or actively.  You should also really minimize the amounts of CA that you are using and try to use a very fine applicator tip to also minimize the amounts of CA and then the level of fumes that you generate.

 

You should cut back on the amounts and the CA fumes as these will also irritate your eyes as well.

 

A respirator will help, but perhaps this also how you are holding everything and perhaps looking down from above so that your head is directly above your work? 

 

Perhaps taking a break, thinking about how you are working on these small parts, considering a respirator and maybe also investing in some eye protection would help you.

Yes, it sounds as if you're overexposed.

No matter what you're painting or gluing, if it's humanly possible, work outdoors. There are times when you can't--too windy, too rainy or cold, dust flying, etc.--but if you have a decent day, or even a warm enough day in droizzle and a covered porch, take advantage of natural ventilation ever chance you can get.

 

I used polyurethane varnish on our stairs and kitchen cabinets thirty years ago when they were new--fans running, doors and windows all open--and still had a doozy of an asthma attack from it. To this day I can't use or be around polyurethane varnishes. If your body starts whispering hints, take them before it decides to use a bullhorn.

Sometimes the fumes from CA glue will irritate my eyes but its never given me any respiratory trouble. When I was a mechanic I developed an allergy to brake cleaner. Gave me nasty open blisters on my skin. I tried wearing gloves but the stuff dissolved the gloves. Everyone in the shop used the stuff but I was the only one to develop a reaction to it. Never again will I touch it.

You can be 'sensitized' to certain chemicals after exposure to them.  Meaning you can become extremely sensitive to seemingly minor amounts once sensitized.  Everyone is different and has different experiences that lead to different results.  CA glue has burned my eyes before and I know the smell and try to avoid overexposure by being careful.  I was always told that sniffing glue wasn't real healthy for your brain, so I try to avoid doing that.  But of course, you have a job to do.  How about a fan next to the workbench to get the fumes away immediately with a logical way to blow it to the exhaust to vent the work area.  For the amount of work you have to do and the reaction you are having, a respirator seems like a good idea.  

Originally Posted by Dave45681:

You had me at "coughing up goop". 

 

Time to re-evaluate how much of this stuff is being used and how to best separate yourself from the fumes if there are no viable alternatives.

 

This sounds like you are using a lot more than for small repairs of plastic items or even assembly of a styrene kit.

 

-Dave

 

Originally Posted by Becky, Tom & Gabe Morgan:

Yes, it sounds as if you're overexposed.

No matter what you're painting or gluing, if it's humanly possible, work outdoors ... take advantage of natural ventilation ever chance you can get ...

I strongly agree with those comments; PLEASE DON'T RISK YOUR HEALTH UNNECESSARILY.

I've purchased a VOX/NOX rated respirator mask at my Benjiman Moore paint store.

 

I have two dryer vents through a basement window: One pulls air out with an inline fan picked up from a building supplier. I keep an air conditioner filter over the intake side so I don't draw dirt and bugs into my work space.  Using the flexible metal dryer venting I can set up my "hood" anywhere I want near my work.

 

Hope this helps

Originally Posted by rep56:

Greg, do you really think your wife would be willing to glue all those things for him, I doubt it..LOL

NOT glue them for him....she would have been smart enough to answer his question regarding is he hurting himself! Not many wives would be foolish enough to do what he did, then ask a bunch of other fools who sit around playing with trains, if it was safe!

 

If you don't think so, start smelling up your work area with glue, lacquer thinner or any other hazardous item....then let your wife walk in on you. You won't even have to ask, she will just point out your error!

 

We know they are not too bright (they married us, didn't they!?) but they know better than that.

 

That was my point. I just stated it a little blunter in this post, for those who did not get it the first time.

 

Greg

Thanks, I appreciate input.  I probably have a very reactive immune system.  But it is nice to know others experiences. 

 

I will have to look for a respirator that is for fumes, not dust.  Good point as I never thought that there are different types.

 

I have used 5 bottles of the glue (small 1 oz?) and have finished 5000 pieces of catenary parts.  I am almost completely done glueing, thank goodness.

 

A bottle would last probably 2 weeks so it has taken quite some time to "finish". 

 

I primarily asked question to see if I was alone or if this is fairly common. 

 

Again thanks for information. 

 

mikeg 

Uh, well, wouldn't it be logical, when doing that sort of major project involving any sort

of glue or solvents (or even non-water-based paints), to wait until the weather permits

you to do this OUTSIDE? Really? I don't know where you are (can guess), but winter ends,

even up there. (And winter is getting wimpier, anyway.)

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