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I already referenced this CW-80 Voltage thread with the conversion chart for those like myself with a cheap meter.

CW 80 Voltage

My question is, with a whole slew of  lighted accessories the meter I have the accessory side programmed to read 8.0 volts on my meter which equates to about 12v on the true RMS conversion chart. Which is where I'd like to be.

When the all lights are off, and only my crossing signals are powered my meter shoots up to 17.6

I know my cheap meter is not reading the voltage correctly, but is there actually an increase in the voltage to some degree, or is it still only putting out the 12v that I have it programmed to?

I don't want some voltage jumping anomaly to take out my signals.

I would prefer to run a brick through a TPC or AVC but I'm using these CW-80's because I have them from sets many moons ago and all I"m asking them to do is power my accessories.

 

 

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Something sounds quirky - connect the meter in-line on the hot side and set it to AC amperage - get a reading at full load (with lights) and low load (crossing signal only, no lights)

Meter lead to transformer terminal - second meter lead to ACC hot wire

A modern crossing signal should only draw tenths (.025) of an amp - a single small incandescent light bulb can draw .25

 

As it turns out, I was "googling" this issue just prior to Robs reply and ran across a "Trainfacts" article from Dale Manquen that goes into lengthy detail about the Lionel CW-80.

( I was thinking Dale would have the answer if he was still with us)

Dale mentioned on more than one occasion in his writeup that checking voltage with a standard meter with little or no voltage load could yield a maximum voltage readout with the transformer at 0.

Trainfacts CW 80 Dale Manquen

"Each of the Triacs is bypassed by a resistor and capacitor in series to reduce transients across the Triacs. NOTE: These rather large 1 uF capacitors will cause misleading output voltage readings on a high-impedance digital voltmeter if there is little or no resistance connected from A or B to U at the output. The impedance of the capacitor, even with the Triac shut off, will be much lower than the input impedance of the digital voltmeter, causing virtually the entire available 18 VAC to appear across the meter. When testing this transformer, add a light bulb across the output being tested. The bulb will not only offer a low resistance shunt to help the meter read correctly, but it will also give a visual indication of what is happening with the output voltage as the lever is changed or the Accessory voltage is programmed."

 

Thanks again Dale! God Bless!

 

 

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