Any CTA motormen/operators on board? Rules question.

If this was a signal on a frieght railroad, my guess would bet it is NOT a home signal.  Why?  It has a number plate.

But LRT and heavy rail have different rule books, almost custom to the system.

It is possible at one time this was NOT a home signal, and was changed to being one.  Or the indications and aspects changed.

Any CTA experts out there 

http://www.railfanguides.us/il/cta/index.htm#Signals

Rusty

Yes i operated those trains(retired) exactly what do you need to know ?

Dieseler posted:

Yes i operated those trains(retired) exactly what do you need to know ?

 

 

 

 

Just curious for the need to have a sign on an (Interlocking Home Signal) signal with the indication "If Red over Red Stop and Stay".

As I had said in my OP I don't know CTA operating rules but it does seem unusual for what seems to be a redundant statement of the signal's indication. 

Perhaps if Blueline C4 sees this he can jump in if the TA has anything similar.

Überstationmeister posted:

Might just act a reinforcement of the rule. There are a few traffic lights around here with signs that say "stop on red", "all traffic must stop on red" or "make a complete stop before turning right on red"

That was my first thought - are there that many RVDs on the CTA that they need to spell out at every home signal that the rule is "Stop and Stay".   Or was there some type of a transit operators safety study done where they determined that adding that to the signal mast at home signals cut down on the number of rules violations.

Just curious and I thought we might have a few CTA operators or retired operators on board.

Rule292 as far back as i can remember last 40 years they always had them.

As a note we were called motorman it changed to operators once conductors were eliminated and the local fought for a pay raise as we were now performing the conductors job as well that raise was very insulting and will leave it at that. My hiring classification was as a switchman after 14 years was able to pick jobs with weekends off. No regrets.

Retired ATU Member Local 308

Dieseler posted:

Rule292 as far back as i can remember last 40 years they always had them.

As a note we were called motorman it changed to operators once conductors were eliminated and the local fought for a pay raise as we were now performing the conductors job as well that raise was very insulting and will leave it at that. My hiring classification was as a switchman after 14 years was able to pick jobs with weekends off. No regrets.

 

Retired ATU Member Local 308

Thanks.  Was just curious if there was more than meets the eye.  

I cannot recall many CTA crashes. the only one that comes to mind is the recent O'Hare crash were a sleepy motor-woman failed to stop.

And I never realized the complexity of the CTA signal system to reflect the diversity of track situations requiring the signal variations.