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Originally Posted by david1:

I also see AEM-7's all the time.. HHP's, they are now in the scrap yards, about the only place you will see them. 

Bombardier actually owns the HHP8s and leases them to Amtrak. Time still remains on the lease so, other than retiring them from service as has been done, Amtrak has to wait for the lease to expire or until such time an agreement regarding further disposition of the locomotives is reached with Bombardier. For now, they'll be staying on the property at Bear....no scrap yard just yet.

 

Bob

Amtrak has purchased (according to one Amtrak conductor), some 200 Siemens locomotives from Germany. They are replacing all HHP's period. The new locomotives are way more powerful and boast many technological features. The locomotives resemble the Siemens Taurus. A popular locomotive in use, throughout Europe. I will always like the HHP, but life goes on and the mile post add up in terms of wear and tear on Amtrak's NE sector locomotives and cars.

 

 

Pete

 

 

Originally Posted by the train yard:

Amtrak has purchased (according to one Amtrak conductor), some 200 Siemens locomotives from Germany. They are replacing all HHP's period. The new locomotives are way more powerful and boast many technological features. The locomotives resemble the Siemens Taurus. A popular locomotive in use, throughout Europe. I will always like the HHP, but life goes on and the mile post add up in terms of wear and tear on Amtrak's NE sector locomotives and cars.

 

 

Pete

 

 

200?

 

Not even close. Amtrak has purchased 70 ACS64 locomotives. 

 

They are based on German locomotives but overall built in the USA. Not just shipped over. 

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Originally Posted by SJC:
Originally Posted by the train yard:

Amtrak has purchased (according to one Amtrak conductor), some 200 Siemens locomotives from Germany. They are replacing all HHP's period. The new locomotives are way more powerful and boast many technological features. The locomotives resemble the Siemens Taurus. A popular locomotive in use, throughout Europe. I will always like the HHP, but life goes on and the mile post add up in terms of wear and tear on Amtrak's NE sector locomotives and cars.

 

 

Pete

 

 

200?

 

Not even close. Amtrak has purchased 70 ACS64 locomotives. 

 

They are based on German locomotives but overall built in the USA. Not just shipped over. 

Just relaying what a conductor told me. I might add that these locomotives are in use right now. I took quite a few pictures of several that passed through the BWI train station. Regardless of the actual numbers, they are really fine looking locomotives and will likely serve Amtrak very well into the future.

 

German technology is awesome, if not complicated.

 

 

Pete

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Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by the train yard:

German technology is awesome, if not complicated.

 

 

Pete

Do you have much experience in troubleshooting "German technology"?

If you mean trains, no not at all, but I merely offered a basic opinion based upon years of historical research of German technology as it relates to WWII and post WWII armor.

 

No doubt the Germans build absolutely fantastic locomotives in my humble opinion. I think what I may have been eluding too was the fact that much of what the Germans make can be rather overdone and thus complicated to work on. Which is not to say that what they manufacturer is bad.

 

Hope this answered your question and thanks for asking.

 

Pete

Originally Posted by Mike W.:

The AEM7s were so reliable...why didn't Amtrak just continue with that supplier to make Generation II instead of ground up fresh designs each time.  

Because the AEM7 units were a result of a "partnership" between EMD-GM, ASEA, and Amtrak. Obviously EMD is no longer part of GM and ASEA is essentially gone. Thus, Amtrak need a new, more reliable supplier.

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