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Arriving today, from a major model train mail order house, was my brand new Williams by Bachman sharknose AA Baldwin demonstrators.  Great paint job! I first read the directions. This is my 4th Williams by Bachman loco.   I did have problems with one of these 4 new William by Bachman loco as well.  The retailer was able to help me get it straight though.

 

The only thing wrong is that after placing the powered A unit on the track, powering the track, the locomotive just sat there spinning its wheels, then began to barely move in a slow jerky manner.  Bummer!!  The loco could hardly pull itself.  This loco came in a factory sealed box.

 

I checked the traction tires, which were fine.  Both sets of trucks seem to be fine.  I'm at a loss for what to do.  I will call the mail order house tomorrow for I'm sure they will help me by either telling me of some minor adjustment or instructing me to mail it back.

 

Just thought I'd share my experience.  Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this sort of thing with new W by B locos?

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Originally Posted by trumptrain:
Originally Posted by RailRide:

I'd definitely turn it over, hook the transformer wires to the pickup roller + truck sideframe and see if both motors are turning. What you describe sounds an awful lot like only one of the two motors is running. This could be an easy fix with some basic detective work.

 

---PCJ      Thanks PCJ.  I'll also try your suggestion tomorrow.

 

 

From my experience with Williams it sounds like the screw that holds the motor to the truck assembly has come loose and I would look at that first. Turn the engine over and see if you can turn the Phillips head screw that holds the motor to the truck assembly.

 

You can turn the motor by hand when you have the shell off it and see if the wheels turn or not. One note about the can motors "they are D.C." so don't put voltage to them directly, always go through the circuit board for power or use a D.C. power source to test the motors.

 

Lee Fritz

take the shell,

REMOVE the screws that hold the motor to the trucks,

TAKE the motor out of the trucks, and reseat the motor in the trucks.

make sure the motor turns the wheels before you screw it back to trucks.

test run before you put the shell back on.

 

had to do this 3 times on three different WBB loco's,

scale GG1, E7, and a F7.

 

ALSO, check to see if a small piece of ballast or object is stuck in the gears on the bottom of the truck. had this happen a few times over at the club...

Call the place where you got it.

Some won't honor warranty after you tinker.

Problem is probably loose motor but if it isn't, then you need , unless you are a repair person, advise.

I had this happen once with a GP, WILLIAM S fixed no charge, said armature was too short, I never heard of that with their engines.

WILLIAMS engines are the EVERREADY bunny of engines, my idea.

Good luck.

 

Rod

Originally Posted by trumptrain:
Originally Posted by Mountain Mover:

Check for loose screw holding the trucks and the motors together.

Thanks Dallas.  Will try your suggestion too.

Yes, this happened to me. Not with that particular model...it was a WbB J-Class steamer. Since I bought from a LHS though, I took it back and they fixed it on the spot (It was a single loose screw.) Watching what they were doing, I realized it was so simple that I could have done it myself.

 

Obviously the guy on the assembly line whose job it is to tighten screws needs some "correction".

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I have had issues with two of my Williams that were similar to the issue you are experiencing. Both were brand new in the box.

 

The first one had a stripped out axle shaft and the gear would spin about the axle causing that axle to drag because it wasn't being driven. Williams sent me the new parts and it was running right as soon as the parts were replaced.

 

The second had a motor with a bent shaft causing the worm gear bind. Williams sent me a new motor and that took care of the problem. The same loco also had a side frame rubbing against a wheel that caused binding and the loco ran very jerky and would take off very quickly because it took a lot of voltage to overcome the friction in the binding area. It took me a while to figure it out because the wheel in question was slightly off camber and I had to look closely at all of the wheels with loco inverted and power applied in order to see it. (This one was on me because there is some play in the mounting area of the side frames and the truck block assy. When I removed the side frames for a repaint, I installed the side frame too closely to the wheels. A slight readjustment took care of it. It is possible that yours was assembled this way at the factory which is why I mentioned it.)

Originally Posted by trumptrain:  
Originally Posted by RailRide:

I'd definitely turn it over, hook the transformer wires to the pickup roller + truck sideframe and see if both motors are turning. What you describe sounds an awful lot like only one of the two motors is running. This could be an easy fix with some basic detective work.

 

---PCJ   Thanks!  I tried what you  suggested PCJ.  Low and behold, you are correct,  the rear motor does not work..... only the front motor works.  I called the mail order retailer and they instructed me to return the loco and they will send me another.  Easy as that.  I'm asking that the retailer test the new one before sending it out to me.

 

I just got another WBB loco today ( 45 ton ) from the same retailer and the loco works just fine right out of the box.  :-)

 

Thanks again to you PJC and .... everyone else on the forum who responded.

 

 

Originally Posted by trumptrain:  I want to thank everyone who responded to this post requesting to share your experience with WBB brand new locos.  That's one of the many things I love about this forum.... the great willingness of members to help members.  You all answered in length and some in great detail about how to go about trouble shooting the problem.

 

It turns out that the rear motor in my brand new loco does not work. After discovering the rear truck wheels not turning ...  I removed the shell...  all wires are attached ... none broken.  I called the mail order retailer who instructed me to return loco to them and of course they will send me a brand new one.  Initially the retailer wanted me to pay the shipping charges for sending the loco back to them .... but I protested.  They then agreed to pay shipping since I received the loco just yesterday.

 

GOOD NEWS is that I just received a WWB ( 45 ton ) loco from same retailer today and it runs like a charm right out to the box!  :-)  This sort of restores some faith in Bachman, however,  2 bad locos (right out of the factory box) out of 5 ( I have purchased over the last few 2 years )  is not a good average for WBB.  In my opinion Larry Harrington needs to improve quality control at WBB.  

 

Thanks again guys.

Arriving today, from a major model train mail order house, was my brand new Williams by Bachman sharknose AA Baldwin demonstrators.  Great paint job! I first read the directions. This is my 4th Williams by Bachman loco.   I did have problems with one of these 4 new William by Bachman loco as well.  The retailer was able to help me get it straight though.

 

The only thing wrong is that after placing the powered A unit on the track, powering the track, the locomotive just sat there spinning its wheels, then began to barely move in a slow jerky manner.  Bummer!!  The loco could hardly pull itself.  This loco came in a factory sealed box.

 

I checked the traction tires, which were fine.  Both sets of trucks seem to be fine.  I'm at a loss for what to do.  I will call the mail order house tomorrow for I'm sure they will help me by either telling me of some minor adjustment or instructing me to mail it back.

 

Just thought I'd share my experience.  Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this sort of thing with new W by B locos?

 

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