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Being a passenger car guy with a great many, I will state these new 21 inch Lionel cars are the hot set up.  I purchased these to be another train set to go behind my C&O Yellowbelly that is converted to a can motor and DCS.  I had the opportunity to test the lighting board on these before they were released to be positive it would not be an issue with DCS operators.  They play well together with DCS signal.  Shown below is the Station Sounds Diner.  I have the other 6 cars. 

These new cars roll very well.  Some day I would like to put many behind my Yellowbelly to see how many it can pull.  

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Phillip Wheeler posted:

Anyone have photos at these.  I was thinking of investing in them but a nervous after pre-ordering several of  "road specific" Golden Gate aluminum cars that ended up being generic (but highly detailed) smooth-sided cars in a C&O paint scheme.

Right now the only scale passenger cars that are prototypically correct for the C&O are brass 2 rail scale Pecos River cars ($700 to $900 per car undecorated! ). The C&O cars are somewhat unique as they are smooth sided Pullman Standard carbon steel cars with a fluted stainless steel applique installed below the windows only. The Lionel cars are modeled after all stainless steel Budd cars with their complete side and roof fluting although I see Lionel covered up the fluting above the windows with an extended letterboard. The real cars have blue roofs, ends, underframes, and trucks. Lionel got this wrong with black roofs, silver ends, and silver trucks. Seems like I remember that decades ago one of the HO manufacturers (IHC or Con Cor?) made cars in this same incorrect paint scheme so I wonder if Lionel copied one of those.

I've built my own from ca 1990 American Lightweight Car Co. kits. These aren't perfect, but I'd say they are about 95% accurate.

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If the Lionel cars meet your needs then then buy them. Most 3 Railers aren't hung up on accuracy, but for me personally I want my railroad to be fairly true to the prototype, so the Lionel cars don't cut it for me.

The GGD cars are generic and I think GGD stated that before producing them. Their cars have the incorrect black roofs and trucks and a weird squashed Chesapeake and Ohio script on the letterboard. The coach was a B&O prototype and I managed to obtain one which I'm going to redo into the mid 60's B&O tri-color scheme as at that time the C&O and B&O were mixing their passenger car fleets.

Ken

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