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Hopefully I'm putting this question in the right forum.

I'm in the process of building a new 7 X 21 foot layout.  A friend of the family who's a carpenter helped cut and install the plywood and Homasote top pieces over the weekend.  During the work session, I asked him if he could help install a vertical piece of plywood underneath the layout when I get to the wiring task.  After I explained what would be installed on that piece of plywood, he outlined how he could make an under-layout drawer with a plywood bottom where those items could be installed.  When I needed to do any wiring work, I could just pull the drawer out using a handle would install.  Since I'm 66 years old, this sounded like a great idea, not just for the initial wiring task, but also for any future maintenance or additions.   I'm thinking a second drawer under or next to this drawer would be great for the transformers, too, provided there's adequate airflow so they don't have an over-heating problem.

Does anyone have any experience with such an under-layout drawer for their TIUs, AIUs, terminal blocks, etc. or any thoughts on such an approach?

Thank you.

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@Pat Shediack

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I use homemade drawers for power and toggle switches - I didn’t want to waste precious real estate on controls.

Same concept will apply for electronics - minimize the amount that the wires bend when opening and closing the drawer.  (Create a 4-6” loop and let it coil and uncoil like a helix collapsing on itself.)

I also use small recessed panels where appropriate.

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I repurposed a couple of lower cherry cabinets from an office renovation to support each side of a 6’ opening in the layout to accommodate a removable bridge that gives access to the layout interior.

One cabinet has fairly shallow drawers that now hold my coal hoppers.  The other side I ended up modifying the two drawer file cabinet for all the electronics. I cut and trimmed the drawer front top to allow airflow and minimize interference with signals.  On the top of the side walls of the drawer, I cut a shelf to fit between the metal rails that used to hold hanging files.  That allows the shelf to slide.  It holds my TIU and AIU.  The bottom of the drawer holds my 180 bricks and Base3.  I cut and trimmed out a hole in the drawer front to see the power indicator lights and airflow.  The second drawer on the cabinet holds manuals and magazines. Back of the cabinet has a hole for wires and where the LCS modules are hanging.  The sides of the cabinets hold the switch controllers, remotes, and most importantly the arches that support the removable bridge.


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Last steps are to build display shelves that mount to the opposite sides of the cabinets that follows the layout’s curved edge. Then I need to install the cherry fascia to give it a more finished appearance, along with cleaning up the mess.

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@Pat Shediack

I use homemade drawers for power and toggle switches - I didn’t want to waste precious real estate on controls.

Same concept will apply for electronics - minimize the amount that the wires bend when opening and closing the drawer.  (Create a 4-6” loop and let it coil and uncoil like a helix collapsing on itself.)

I also use small recessed panels where appropriate.



@Hannibal-St Joseph RR

Thank you for the info and photos.  I share your thoughts on conserving layout "real estate".  I mounted my last layout's control panel in a vertical configuration for that very reason!

Your wire coiling idea is a new one I haven't encountered before.  I'll probably adopt that approach when I get to the layout wiring task.

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@jstraw124 posted:

I repurposed a couple of lower cherry cabinets from an office renovation to support each side of a 6’ opening in the layout to accommodate a removable bridge that gives access to the layout interior.

One cabinet has fairly shallow drawers that now hold my coal hoppers.  The other side I ended up modifying the two drawer file cabinet for all the electronics. I cut and trimmed the drawer front top to allow airflow and minimize interference with signals.  On the top of the side walls of the drawer, I cut a shelf to fit between the metal rails that used to hold hanging files.  That allows the shelf to slide.  It holds my TIU and AIU.  The bottom of the drawer holds my 180 bricks and Base3.  I cut and trimmed out a hole in the drawer front to see the power indicator lights and airflow.  The second drawer on the cabinet holds manuals and magazines. Back of the cabinet has a hole for wires and where the LCS modules are hanging.  The sides of the cabinets hold the switch controllers, remotes, and most importantly the arches that support the removable bridge.

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Last steps are to build display shelves that mount to the opposite sides of the cabinets that follows the layout’s curved edge. Then I need to install the cherry fascia to give it a more finished appearance, along with cleaning up the mess.

@jstraw124

Thank you for the helpful info and photos.

Did you fasten your TIU and AIU down to the bottom of the drawer or are they just laying in there?

@jstraw124

Thank you for the helpful info and photos.

Did you fasten your TIU and AIU down to the bottom of the drawer or are they just laying in there?

They are just sitting on the shelf.  The design requires leaving slack in the wires to be able to open the drawer.  Leaving them unsecured prevents wires from being pulled out if any of the wires get hung up.

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