Are the cabs interchangeable between a hi rail version and a scaled wheel version?
These are GP38's with PS3, from 2012 I think
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Not exactly. You would have to remove the coupler and pilots from the hi-rail version. I believe the chassis are the same (I'll pull a couple of engines I have and take some photos this weekend) but removing the chassis from the scale-wheeled version is difficult when the coupler boxes are in place if you're using 805 boxes because of the length.
Doug Kearney (Laidoffsick) did a good how-to on fixing pilots on a hi-rail engine which was very thorough and well illustrated. The thread is here.
Originally Posted by AGHRMatt:
Not exactly. You would have to remove the coupler and pilots from the hi-rail version. I believe the chassis are the same (I'll pull a couple of engines I have and take some photos this weekend) but removing the chassis from the scale-wheeled version is difficult when the coupler boxes are in place if you're using 805 boxes because of the length.
Doug Kearney (Laidoffsick) did a good how-to on fixing pilots on a hi-rail engine which was very thorough and well illustrated. The thread is here.
Along this line,is it possible to change out the truck mounted couplers on 3 rail Atlas engines,specifically GP-15's,&mount scale couplers,without electrical work,as they've got the electro couplers? I was thinking about going with 3 rail to keep the TMCC sound. If using O-72 curves,I didn't think the truck swing would be enough to bother the couplers.
Thanks,Alan
Originally Posted by Alan Hummel:
Originally Posted by AGHRMatt:
Not exactly. You would have to remove the coupler and pilots from the hi-rail version. I believe the chassis are the same (I'll pull a couple of engines I have and take some photos this weekend) but removing the chassis from the scale-wheeled version is difficult when the coupler boxes are in place if you're using 805 boxes because of the length.
Doug Kearney (Laidoffsick) did a good how-to on fixing pilots on a hi-rail engine which was very thorough and well illustrated. The thread is here.
Along this line,is it possible to change out the truck mounted couplers on 3 rail Atlas engines,specifically GP-15's,&mount scale couplers,without electrical work,as they've got the electro couplers? I was thinking about going with 3 rail to keep the TMCC sound. If using O-72 curves,I didn't think the truck swing would be enough to bother the couplers.
Thanks,Alan
Atlas handles things differently -- at least with the past models. The 2-rail and 3-rail models share the same basic structure. The pilots on the 2-rail models are fixed to the body using a spacer plate that contains the coupler mounts. There's also a pilot filler piece. These parts are available from Atlas. I don't think you'll be able to use the hi-rail truck mounted coupler with the fixed pilot, even on O-72 curves because of its size (it would hit the sides of the pilot opening even without the fill parts. On a GP35, the rear pilot may allow you to get away with it because of the short distance, but this would be a trial and error situation.
I've picked up the parts for some RS1's that had zinc rot on the electronic couplers but haven't had time to take them apart to switch them over.
Originally Posted by AGHRMatt:
Originally Posted by Alan Hummel:
Originally Posted by AGHRMatt:
Not exactly. You would have to remove the coupler and pilots from the hi-rail version. I believe the chassis are the same (I'll pull a couple of engines I have and take some photos this weekend) but removing the chassis from the scale-wheeled version is difficult when the coupler boxes are in place if you're using 805 boxes because of the length.
Doug Kearney (Laidoffsick) did a good how-to on fixing pilots on a hi-rail engine which was very thorough and well illustrated. The thread is here.
Along this line,is it possible to change out the truck mounted couplers on 3 rail Atlas engines,specifically GP-15's,&mount scale couplers,without electrical work,as they've got the electro couplers? I was thinking about going with 3 rail to keep the TMCC sound. If using O-72 curves,I didn't think the truck swing would be enough to bother the couplers.
Thanks,Alan
Atlas handles things differently -- at least with the past models. The 2-rail and 3-rail models share the same basic structure. The pilots on the 2-rail models are fixed to the body using a spacer plate that contains the coupler mounts. There's also a pilot filler piece. These parts are available from Atlas. I don't think you'll be able to use the hi-rail truck mounted coupler with the fixed pilot, even on O-72 curves because of its size (it would hit the sides of the pilot opening even without the fill parts. On a GP35, the rear pilot may allow you to get away with it because of the short distance, but this would be a trial and error situation.
I've picked up the parts for some RS1's that had zinc rot on the electronic couplers but haven't had time to take them apart to switch them over.
Originally Posted by Alan Hummel: I don't want to use the Lionel couplers. I want to chuck them&replace with scale couplers from San Quan or Protocraft where the knuckels swing open like the prototype. Protocraft has the same basic coupler box as Kadee but San Quan supplies the coupler but you supply the coupler box. So I just need to get the coupler off,take care of the electro coupler connnection&don't see why that'd be more involved than just clipping some wires but I have no idea what I'm talking about so I don't know. Then comes the proceedure of mounting the couplers;ah the cutting,fitting,drilling,losing things throwing things,oops!!
What's really annoying is Atlas almost always shows scale couplers mounted to their GP15s,yet you can't find any to buy,just ones with the Lionel type couplers. Life wouldn't be any fun without these roadblocks,but a few breaks'd be nice.
What's really annoying is Atlas almost always shows scale couplers mounted to their GP15s,yet you can't find any to buy,just ones with the Lionel type couplers. Life wouldn't be any fun without these roadblocks,but a few breaks'd be nice.Al
Originally Posted by AGHRMatt:
Originally Posted by Alan Hummel:
Originally Posted by AGHRMatt:
Not exactly. You would have to remove the coupler and pilots from the hi-rail version. I believe the chassis are the same (I'll pull a couple of engines I have and take some photos this weekend) but removing the chassis from the scale-wheeled version is difficult when the coupler boxes are in place if you're using 805 boxes because of the length.
Doug Kearney (Laidoffsick) did a good how-to on fixing pilots on a hi-rail engine which was very thorough and well illustrated. The thread is here.
Along this line,is it possible to change out the truck mounted couplers on 3 rail Atlas engines,specifically GP-15's,&mount scale couplers,without electrical work,as they've got the electro couplers? I was thinking about going with 3 rail to keep the TMCC sound. If using O-72 curves,I didn't think the truck swing would be enough to bother the couplers.
Thanks,Alan
Atlas handles things differently -- at least with the past models. The 2-rail and 3-rail models share the same basic structure. The pilots on the 2-rail models are fixed to the body using a spacer plate that contains the coupler mounts. There's also a pilot filler piece. These parts are available from Atlas. I don't think you'll be able to use the hi-rail truck mounted coupler with the fixed pilot, even on O-72 curves because of its size (it would hit the sides of the pilot opening even without the fill parts. On a GP35, the rear pilot may allow you to get away with it because of the short distance, but this would be a trial and error situation.
I've picked up the parts for some RS1's that had zinc rot on the electronic couplers but haven't had time to take them apart to switch them over.
